The Uncommitted movement announced it wouldn’t be endorsing Kamala Harris for president over her failure to push for a new U.S. policy on the Gaza war.
  • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5910·
    3 months ago

    Fact remains, not voting is basically is half a vote for Trump, and Trump is going to be MUCH worse for the citizens of Gaza.

    • index@sh.itjust.works
      424·
      3 months ago

      You seem unaware of how bad the situation already is. I encourage you to search for news and reports from inside gaza. The fact that it could get worst highlight that they are already making deals and supporting an evil government. The only way it can get any better is if someone other than red and blue get in power.

      • Feathercrown@lemmy.worldEnglish
        151·
        3 months ago

        Nobody other than red or blue is getting in power for the next 20 years or so at least. The sooner you accept that, the sooner you and the people you’re voting to protect can be helped by your vote.

      • superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        61·
        3 months ago

        If it can’t get any worse than you mine as well cross it out from your voting criteria. I assure you that come January either Trump or Harris is going to be president. Mine as well prioritize other issues such as Ukraine. Ukraine can and will get worse under Trump.

      • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.worldEnglish
        62·
        3 months ago

        I’ve been following this for years and have worked for non-profit media watchdogs that publish underreported stories about this conflict.

        I’m just in the camp of people who thinks it’s entirely possible for this to get even worse, and Trump is very cozy with Bibi.

        • index@sh.itjust.works
          311·
          3 months ago

          more cozy than someone remarking his zionist views multiple times, hugging him like a long time friend and helping his government with “whatever it needs”? I guess it can get to the point where trump suck his dick live but look it’s already a shit show and the solution is someone else.

  • MrMcGasion@lemmy.world
    332·
    3 months ago

    Not to be pedantic, but wouldn’t making an endorsement make them no longer “Uncommitted”? Yes, Harris could and should be better on the genocide happening in Gaza, but “Uncommitted voters still uncommitted after not meeting with candidate” also isn’t much of a story.

    • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
      87·
      3 months ago

      It’s a pretty massive story considering that the uncommitted movement, which did the most to unseat Biden, wasn’t given a voice at the convention.

      If not for uncommitted, Democrats would have lost this long ago.

      So to not come to the table, Harris waves the right to disavow knowing the consequences of ignoring the only movement in the US not interested the genocide of the Palestinian people (to be clear, the Democrats are an objectively pro genocide party, with minority elements of dissent).

      So it’s Harris’s votes to lose. Its not like they are going to Trump, but it’s an easy 0.5-1.5% of the electorate that she’s leaving on the table.

  • chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world
    141·
    3 months ago

    There is no such thing as an “uncommitted voter” anymore. There are just voters who won’t say they are committed because they are talking to someone they want something from. Come November, everyone will vote exactly as they would vote today, barring some extreme political tomfoolery, and honestly, even then, it probably won’t change.

  • jordanlund@lemmy.world
    1912·
    3 months ago

    No point meeting them because what they want, the complete defunding of Israel, is a political impossibility.

    They aren’t going to listen to the reasons it’s a political impossibility, so there’s no point talking to them.

    • Psychodelic@lemmy.world
      1113·
      3 months ago

      And here I thought they just wanted Israel to stop their genocide of Palestinians

      Shit, I bet if they’d negotiated in good faith people would’ve been happy for them to just stop butchering the children. I’d personally be happy if they spares one child live for every one they choose to murder - but I’m just a bit more reasonable than most, I guess

      • jordanlund@lemmy.world
        127·
        3 months ago

        That’s not what they want of Harris. They honestly believe that if we stop funding Israel, the genocide would stop.

        It wouldn’t. Israel has never needed our help to commit war crimes, but you can’t convince them of that.

        • distantsounds@lemmy.worldEnglish
          53·
          3 months ago

          If Israel never needed the aid to commit war crimes, why would the US continue to send 20000lb bombs etc? Those are not defensive.

          We want Harris to deny all non-defensive munition shipments. Stop aid until Israel comes to the table in good faith and stops escalation

  • rocci@lemmy.ml
    48·
    3 months ago

    That’s smart, meeting with potential voters who still haven’t pledged their vote yet is definitely a waste of time.