cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/19421887

DeArrow is an open source browser extension for crowdsourcing better titles and thumbnails on YouTube. The goal is to make titles accurate and reduce sensationalism. No more arrows, ridiculous faces, and no more clickbait.

“Clickbait” isn’t the exception anymore, it’s becoming the norm. Many have even started going through their entire backlog, changing old titles and thumbnails to be more attention grabbing and vague.

It’s no one’s fault. It’s a system that creates a race to the bottom.

DeArrow hopes to stop this cycle. It’s time to return to a more peaceful experience.

  • deathmetal27@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    One of the best addons you can get. Period.

    It’s like a paradigm shift when you browse YouTube after enabling it.

    This plus using ublock to remove useless UI elements makes for a prime disenshittified YouTube experience.

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      7 months ago

      You convinced me, I’m totally adding this today! :)

      I also would throw in sponsorblock to that too - it skips all the “but first, Raid Shadow Legends…” “don’t forget to like share and subscribe” nonsense :)

      edit: thank you, I just poked into YouTube Revanced, and found DeArrow was on! This explains why I didn’t like youtube’s content when on my PC, so I’ll 100% be adding this to Firefox! :)

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        7 months ago

        Interesting, I had to enable dearrow in ReVanced manually. It was disabled by default.

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          7 months ago

          Thinking about it, I would not put it past me to have set it and forgotten 😂 it’s been a while since I played about with the settings!

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            7 months ago

            The way I found about was, finding the Firefox extension first, which then motivated me to search for the config option

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      7 months ago

      Using uBlock Origin to get rid of the Youtube Shorts section of the sub feed was amazing for me. Are there other things you block too?

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        Here’s a non exhaustive list of things I’ve blocked:

        • The pill strip on top with a list of video topics (don’t know what the official term is.)
        • YouTube shorts suggestions.
        • Ads that are injected into the suggestions.
        • “Shorts remixing this video” section in the video descriptions.

        I’ll perhaps share my ublock filter list for YouTube later.

        Edit: My uBlock Origin filters:

        www.youtube.com##.ytd-rich-item-renderer.style-scope > .ytd-feed-nudge-renderer.style-scope
        www.youtube.com###voice-search-button
        www.youtube.com##ytd-rich-section-renderer.ytd-rich-grid-renderer.style-scope > .ytd-rich-section-renderer.style-scope
        www.youtube.com##yt-related-chip-cloud-renderer.ytd-watch-next-secondary-results-renderer.style-scope
        www.youtube.com##.ytd-ad-slot-renderer.style-scope
        www.youtube.com##ytd-reel-shelf-renderer.ytd-item-section-renderer.style-scope:nth-of-type(1)
        www.youtube.com##ytd-reel-shelf-renderer.ytd-item-section-renderer.style-scope:nth-of-type(2)
        www.youtube.com##ytd-reel-shelf-renderer.ytd-structured-description-content-renderer.style-scope
        
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          7 months ago

          The pill strip on top with a list of video topics

          There’s one reason not to block this: all the way on the right of that list is a “new to you” feed button, which is pretty neat to try sometimes.

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            7 months ago

            Could you share the URL of that link? IMO, there should be a better way of presenting that than on the pill bar on the top.

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              6 months ago

              Unfortunately there’s no URL to go with that feature, it must be JS-activated. Same goes for the Recently Uploaded and Watched tabs which are new in that same vein.

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    7 months ago

    I’ve been using this for a while now and the only thing I’ll say is that a lot of videos don’t have alternative titles, so since it’s all crowd sourced I feel that the best solution is to have more people using it.

    Brilliant idea regardless.

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    I used this within smart tube for a while, but honestly I kind of missed some of the clockbait titles. There problem I faced was that it wasn’t clear when a title had been replaced or not, so when you did find a video with a relatively clockbait titles, it gave you a bit of a false sense of security. I also found that sometimes the crowd sourced titles were just boring, albeit accurate.

    Maybe I’m just weird or maybe I’ve just been browsing YouTube for so long that I’m used to it, but for now it’s an addon I’ll skip, though I’m very glad it exists.

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      7 months ago

      I also found that sometimes the crowd sourced titles were just boring, albeit accurate.

      It’s the equivalent of the comedy geniuses that remove words from comics thinking it’s always better.

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    7 months ago

    I like the concept and I have it installed, but I don’t contribute to it because I find it challenging to think of better titles. It’s not easy like with Sponsorblock that I regularly submit to. For example, sometimes I need to watch most of the video first to be accurate, and by then I’ve already moved on to the next video. Other times it’s simply hard for me to condense the content of the video accurately into so many characters when the original title is way off.

    I do like the way it makes all the titles lowercase, though. I find that changes the tone of the video feed quite a bit.

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    7 months ago

    I find YouTube itself to be so adversarial that I don’t even use it anymore.

    Still, I’m installing both this and SponsorBlock to symbolically show support to this of projects that IMHO show that I want the Web MY way. I don’t want to browse in whatever way maximizes attention and distraction to increase profit margin of surveillance capitalism.

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      7 months ago

      Interesting that this extension is pay only, first time I see this. Again makes sense to go against a business model of “free” of cost but too expensive for sanity.

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    7 months ago

    I wished this morning existed way before it was out. I have been using it from day 1. I love it.

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      7 months ago

      I’ve been using this extension for over a year now. The only malicious use I’ve seen has been petty.

      Occasionally see a video from a controversial creator titled something like “Asshole talks about stupid bullshit for 25 minutes” on fresh uploads.

      The titles do change quite a bit. A lot of my title suggestions were changed/improved by others.

      There’s a voting system, so you’d need a big group of bad actors fighting uphill for something that isn’t really all that worth it.

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    7 months ago

    Hmm I wasn’t aware it “fixes” titles as well… I am using it on Smart Tube to have better thumbnails, do I have to activate this myself to correct titles as well?

    Anyway 99% of my ST usage (aside watching videos, as in, adding stuff to watch later) comes from my Shield TV home screen, I add stuff there to “My List” Shield row based on my recommendations row… And I am pretty sure DeArrow does not work there, only within the app :/

  • lurch (he/him)@sh.itjust.works
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    7 months ago

    People are going at great length to work around the cancer that is youtube. It’s a nice idea, but in the end, only a boycott will work.

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    7 months ago

    my YouTube watch time drastically reduced after getting this extension. great addon!

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    7 months ago

    I loved the idea of this extension and used it for a few months, but ended up disabling it because it made YouTube take significantly longer to load a page on my daily laptop, which admittedly is pretty old.

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    I love this extension, although the install process can best be described as labyrinthian. It’s crazy how many videos have the altered metadata compared to how many people I’d expect to use the extension; I guess we’re all active on Youtube, likely to contribute, and may see similar videos.

    Highly recommend!

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    7 months ago

    That example, losing the artwork of the Kurzgesagt videos is pretty bad though.

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      It replaces it with the much more pleasing artwork from the actual video. Someone has gone through and picked nice frames for many of those videos.