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    “Subverting expectations” is like jazz.

    A good jazz musician knows the rules of music. They choose which ones to bend and which ones to break. When a couple of rules are broken here and there it’s pleasurable and exciting.

    When too many rules are broken, it’s Yoko Ono.

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        The core of humor is doing something unexpected. “Willy Wonka makes turnips” is unexpected. The same is true with “Charlie doesn’t like what Willy Wonka makes”.

        The problem is that both of those things are telegraphed really early, thus defusing any surprise they could have delivered. By the last frame we expect Charlie to have a bad time at Willy Wonka’s factory, and he does.

        This comic is making animal noises into a microphone and Chuck Berry wants to slap the shit out of it.

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              Have you ever seen like anything from Monty Python? i’m genuinely curious I know comedy is, obviously, subjective, but this comic has a distinctive quality and it’s hard for me to see it labeled as “shitty”.

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                Yeah, I’ve seen all of Flying Circus and all of their movies.

                Monty Python did absurdist stuff, but they didn’t violate core principles of timing and surprise. Jokes recurred or dragged at times without overstaying their welcome.

                A piece of absurdist humor still needs to be humorous. Being weird doesn’t absolve something from being boring or pointless.

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                  I don’t know what to tell you, if Monty were to do this it’d be dragged longer, the stern granpa would be histerically yelling and beating Charlie the whole way through and 8 minutes into the sketch an oompa loompa would walk in a suit and reference a line from 6 sketches before.

                  But I guess everybody truly is different and that’s ok, I guess. Maybe.