• mosiacmango@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    What a wildly stupid reason to remove someone from a command post. This is something that should have been met by a jokey meme, not relieving him from duty.

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      3 months ago

      It’s never one thing.

      The picture brought attention to him, and most Captain’s have done some shit. When they’re out to sea they’re pretty much the final authority. Like no one is ever going to hear about what they do from UCMJ cases.

      Until something like this. Then you have an investigation and they look thru everything and talk to everyone.

      That’s what gets them kicked out.

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        Yeah I grew up around some Navy veterans and the weird stories I know is kinda impressive, im also going to note these were all doen with the captains permission and/or knowledge.

        • Cooking a turkey with the smokestack.

        • Shooting seagulls with an AA gun, related to the previous one.

        • Shooting seagulls with a pressure washer, unrelated to the person from before.

        • Shooting seagulls with an M1 flamethrower, this is from an entirely different person from the two before.

        • Blaring music over the loudspeaker “because it annoyed the British”

        • Smuggling “Way too much” whiskey

        • Making “The Man Signal” with a floodlight

        • Confetti cannon, I have no fucking clue what this means I assume they filled a ship cannon with confetti

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      3 months ago

      It was also a relief of command, not a court martial, not non-judicial punishment, not a demotion or and not a punitive action. It happened because it affected the image of the force, but not necessarily anything that is terribly bad. Relieving someone of command can be a precaution or a temporary measure, not always leading up to anything drastic. He will probably get additional training and a small mark on his record that will go away in a short time as long as the trend doesn’t continue. He may even still get to keep his command or just move somewhere else to command.

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        3 months ago

        No, it is not as severe as NJP or court martial, but being relieved of your command during a deployment overseas is a very serious reprimand for someone at an O-5/O-6 level. Its a statement that the wider command does not trust in your ability to lead during combat maneuvers, which is your entire role at that level in your career.

        It is likely that this ends his career, not that he’s just allowed back. I would expect “voluntary” retirement at a minimum.

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          We’ve had similar incidents with weapon safety (and other things) in the past that were more serious than what was going on in that picture. It all depends on the circumstances, and I’ve seen it go both ways. The point I was making is if there was anything more substantial, it would not just be ‘relieved of command’. No mention of an actual reprimand, which is more serious. I’m not saying it couldn’t ultimately lead up to that, but we don’t know that yet.

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      He picked up a rifle and fired it with a scope that would show everything very tiny. If he didn’t notice then he shouldn’t be in command of a naval vessel since he doesn’t notice small details. If he did notice and didn’t say anything that shows that he isn’t confident in his own knowledge. That is the reason the navy lost confidence in him.