YT premium is a good value for me and my family. Guess I’m evil.
Literally Satan.
Same. I watch more YouTube than probably any other streaming service. Plus I got the family plan and I sell the extra seats to my extended family and friends. Works out to be pretty cheap in the end.
I do the same for Spotify, Disney plus. Formally Netflix but they cut down on password sharing
If you have YouTube premium, why do you have Spotify? YouTube music is comparable and better in some cases.
I don’t pay for either but I use both and the youtube music desktop ui is really really bad. Plus the annoying thing of it often playing music videos instead of the normal song. I definitely like it better on mobile though
You can toggle video or song. I actually like yt music way more because it can play pretty much anything on YT, including hours and hours of mixes you won’t find on Spotify.
You can’t really toggle video or song though, you can toggle video or thumbnail to video with video audio
I’ve had a different experience. When I have it on video, it’ll play the music video version, and when I have it on song, it’ll play the studio version. Maybe that doesn’t work for every song, but it definitely has worked that way for me.
It definitely is better, but it sill has some stupid quirks that in some cases could probably be fixed by few lines of code, like not locking the screen when you are on the lyrics screen. It also is very slow to start-up in offline mode, which drives me nuts. But otherwise it is much better performant than Spotify and has better ways to listen to new music, instead of the dumb intelligent randomize feature on Spotify.
Honestly it’s the social aspect. Everyone I know uses Spotify, so sharing playlists and tracks are super easy. I know there’s converters out there but I can’t be arsed to do that every time I want to send or receive a link. I’ve also got some shared playlists between friends we all contribute to. At social gathering I can turn on the party mode or whatever it’s called and let people add stuff to the queue. The big one though is I’ve got a few friends with really good taste. I can check in on them from time to time to see what they’re listening to right now. Found a lot of great stuff this way.
I wish I could be as pleased with it. I don’t want to pay for a service and have that service still collect data on me to push ads elsewhere.
Unfortunately that’s everything. Netflix, buying groceries with a credit card, even driving your new car.
It doesn’t have to be this way. Somewhere in the past something went wrong.
No. Nothing went wrong. Just nobody cares how anything works just so long as it does.
Mate, you can’t use basically anything today then. Your car probably collects data on you. I’m not saying I love it, but life’s too short for me to cut everything trying to collect my data out of my life. Gotta pick and choose my battles.
My 3 kids all use iPhone and we have a bunch of chrome casts. The only practical way to avoid the ads in YTP.
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I don’t mind paying for good services, personally.
get a good adblocker and donate that money to them instead.
thatd probably be the best value.
I do use an adblocker, and I’ll keep spending my money how I please, thanks.
everyone can use their money for whatever stupid thing they please
You subscribe to every single channel you watch on Patreon? That’s remarkable!
paying for youtubers
paying for youtubers
Like it or not the platform is full of people trying to make a living independently producing content. Most of them are not making very much money. Watching with an adblocker means they aren’t earning any revenue, which is unsustainable. Watching with a Premium subscription means I don’t see ads and they get more revenue (even more so than ad-supported views).
Those people aren’t massive corporations. They’re independent creators. And generally speaking the content I watch on YouTube is content I want to support.
I’m not trying to say it’s like, inherently ethically wrong to watch YouTube without ads or Premium. But it certainly isn’t ethically superior.
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Paying for services?
Absolute evil.
Don’t be disingenuous. We are already paying for that service, in our data and attention.
It would be an entirely different story if paying for Youtube Premium immediately opted you out of participating in Google’s data-mining and data-selling, and if paying for Youtube Premium removed not just the overt ads but the algorithmically-manipulated advertising content as well (what is the effective difference between a Pepsi ad and a Good Mythical Morning video titled “trying every new Pepsi flavor”?), but it since it DOESN’T do those then we aren’t talking about paying for a service - we are talking about a company asking for every penny in our wallet for a service which we are already paying for.
Remember when the big selling point of cable TV was no advertising? And then it became 99% ads?
Yeah.
I am displeased with premium these days. My use of premium was to remove ads and give creators a little more money. The issue today is every single video will have a sponsor spot that is an ad. So here I am paying extra to get rid of ads and the creator just made their own. Using sponsor block has become a requirement to get past the wall of ads.
I don’t mind in video sponsor spots because at least the creators are being paid directly for those. Personally, I just skip em or if it’s a creator that makes them funny, I may just listen anyway.
Those sponsor spots absolutely blow my mind. They’re there, forever in the video no matter how times it’s viewed. That’s a lot of trust to have in an advertising relationship, both the creator (who is basically tattooing a person in a portrait they’re painting with an ad) and company have to determine if it’s enough compensation based on… feels I guess lol. I’m pretty sure there is some after data but how do you know which videos take off or not? Then if there’s any controversy, whole things a mess and I hope they get a lot for it.
Yeah I often think the same.
They’re adding skipping those to premium, too
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YouTube premium comes for free with my Google music subscription. Or the other way around. Idk
ITT: lots of unpaid youtube premium shills.
If youtube wants me to pay for their service, they can offer a service worth paying for instead of purposefully degrading their free service into an unusable mess in an attempt to force my hand.
Preach. 1080p looks like dogsh*t now and they’ve been rolling out a premium only enhanced bitrate option. Yet another case of ruin what’s good to sell what everyone already had.
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I have begun to see that YT is being hostile to adblocker users - and this worries me. I assume YT is already probing the clients to see which are circumveting the ads.
I had an (let’s say unconventional) idea at one point: an add-on which only purpose is to show the YT ads in the background which uBO blocked. All of the blocked ads would be played (eventually) - except that the user can just ignore this happening in background and wouldn’t be actually seeing the ads. I.e. the browser would just move playing the ads into a background container not visible to the user.
I kinda got grandfathered into Youtube Music by using (and enjoying) Google Music, and since YT Premium was only like $2 more, I got it. I primarily use it for the music. The no-ads is just a bonus for me, I guess.
The main issue with YouTube premium is the price, I can’t imagine that they’re making anywhere near $14 a month from showing me ads that I never click on. I’d love to see a breakdown, including how much is subsiding free users, how much is going to creators, and how much is going into the pockets of shareholders.
I think like most if not all of the people I know would easily pay $5 dollars for premium
I don’t know the breakdown but I know that creators generally earn much more per premium view vs normal view.
I signed up through Pakistan and got the family plan for $4 AUD a month.
Been going for a couple of years now and no problems.
Also the big benefit is YouTube music, so I don’t need my spottyfi account anymore either
It’s actually great value, I never watched YouTube for entertainment before I got it, now I get to watch people do way too big deep dives on subjects I would normally find boring, but because they go too far it gets interesting
YouTube and creators make significantly more from premium users than ad-supported. But I’m okay with that. I’m paying for a service, that service works (mostly) great. I get essentially Spotify and ad-free YouTube for that price, and thus get far more bang for my buck than a Max subscription or a Hulu subscription or whatever.
A lot of the features of YouTube Premium (ad-free, downloads, offline music, background play and PiP on mobile, video queues, etc.) are likely available from other YouTube clients, but given how much I use the service I don’t mind paying for it. Especially since using other clients sucks for the creators (unless you’re personally subscribing to everyone’s Patreon, and I don’t know about you but there are a few channels I subscribe to on Patreon and FAR more that I just…watch).
Even if there was a single ad that I would want to click on, ever, I would still just simply look up the site instead. The only reason I’ve clicked an ad in the past 20 years was when I did it accidentally. They know that (as in, they know that the click ratio will be low) and I’m sure their goal is just for you to see the ad.
All hail modded YouTube clients
Then God created newpipe
I thought the devil created Chihuahuas with that chance
Newpipe ftw
