Does anyone know if there are any companies/organizations that offer the possibility to sail the Atlantic by boat as a passenger (so not as a (more or less) experienced crew member). Are there any? Or announced plans or something like that?
(I’m not talking about being a passenger on a large cargo ship. I’m curious about the possibility to cross the Atlantic with a low carbon footprint).
Hear me out. The thing with cruise ships is that they sometimes relocate from North America to Europe operations and vis versa. Those cruises don’t get tourists because the whole point of a cruise is to visit different places, no one wants that trip. But the relocation is going to happen anyway, so they sell tickets super cheap (and it’s stripped of entertainment like comedians, shows, etc). Because the relocation is going to happen anyway, you’re not exactly adding to any carbon footprint. You’d have to Google what exactly they’re called.
But I get you if you want to sail. That does exist too.
Repositioning cruise, I think
He just flies everywhere
Might as well fly, the plane is going regardless ಠ_ಠ
Well no the plane wouldn’t.
Probably would, since cargo is their primary…cargo.
For the discussion we’re having here, planes generally don’t relocate for the sake of relocating. If they do, then you don’t want to spend any time loading passengers/bags at a terminal. You just want to take off, land, and skip the rest. Plus for a plane any weight is quite a cost.
If you are talking about a normal commercial flight, then you flying is normal demand.
Like a transatlantic cruise?
No, I basically mean a sailing ship. A ship with sails. I’m curious about the possibilities to cross the Atlantic with no/low CO2 emissions. I have adjusted the title to make this clearer!
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Interesting, thanks. What does “fulltime liveaboard crusier” mean? You spend your days sailing the ocean? In sailing boats?
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Looks like the main options are the things you’ve already ruled-out:
- Lowest impact travel: passenger on a cargo ship.
- Zero-emissions vehicle: £6000 trip on a sailing boat, but any normal-sized boat is going to expect everyone on board to take shifts.
Maybe you can find a “tall ship” that’s big enough to have passive passengers (example), or pay the small boat to bring a higher ratio of paid crew to let the passengers sleep.
Thanks. The tall ships look amazing.
I don’t understand why there arent more commercial options around. Aren’t there armies of rich tourists and digital nomads struggling with their CO2 footprints?
Wouldnt it be possible to have WiFi on such tall ships? Wouldnt it be possible for people to work online for some weeks?
It might be a trope by now, but when you mention “rich tourists and digital nomads”… have you read For The Win?
When Cory Doctorow considers this question, … His character, an archetype of the subcultures you mention, voiced by the most cyberpunk author you ever read, chooses a cargo ship.
Thanks for the book rec
I didn’t know it yet. But it looks interesting. Thanks for the tip.
https://www.59-north.com/ take you on as crew for different lengths of legs. I think they usually go back and forth with two boats per year.
Royal Caribbean has a couple of one way routes from the us to Europe.
Some shipping companies will also rent cabin space for civilians to cross the atlantic.