• Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world
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    When the people who invented Nazis are pissed about your Nazis, you’ve got a problem with Nazis.

    • Carighan Maconar@lemmy.world
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      Now we need to do the AfD next, bevor we have the next Nazis on our hands. And their populist propaganda is seeping in steadily, fueled by massive and endless hate campaigns from the BILD boulevard piece.

      They are polling really really high in many states, top in some even, despite having absolutely no plans or desires to do any politics. All they can do is rage and yell about immigrants, current politicians, taxes, joblessness, the EU, laws, Ukraine, everything. And they also successfully did this thing where they are selling their idea that they are “for the people” and “the will of the people”, yet the elected politicians they do have have consistently (and I mean it, not a single exeption) voted in favor of taxing the working class and making it easier for the ultra-rich. Surprise, surprise.

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        The same is happening in Sweden with the neo Nazi Sweden Democrats (disclaimer: they prefer being called “social conservatives” while simultaneously calling for the “deportation of asocial foreigners”). The only difference is, these ones have a plan, a really shitty one, and now by forming a bloc and becoming part of the government without any posts, they are effectively trying to apply each one of their weird proposals even though a number of them may require that they leave the EU. They think UK is doing a good job with immigration…

        Whenever any nation wants to leave the EU, I immediately suspect they are up to a human rights violation.

        Edit:typo

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        If something is worth doing it’s worth doing yourself. Stop outsourcing your aggression to governments.

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          Eeeeeh… wow. Okay, and you jump straight to euthanize. I’m going to put you into the “part of the problem” box, I think.

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              The issue is who decides what kind of behaviour deserves that kind of treatment.

              It inevitably ends up harming the wrong people in the end.

              I can understand the sentiment though.

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          You should recognize that from their point of view what you said is pretty much what they think they’re saying. Squashing bad ideas isn’t worth turning yourself into a ghoul as well. Even people with bad ideas deserve love and compassion.

      • Jax@sh.itjust.works
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        I don’t know about that, German Nazis actually had teeth.

        Most Nazis you see in the U.S. are poor white trash with meth mouth.

        The main worry is how much damage they do before they’re purged.

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    Let me guess, the related nazi group in the US is protected under at least ten amendments to continue being nazis.

  • BeautifulMind ♾️@lemmy.world
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    It’s about time we stopped protecting Nazi politics under the rubric of ‘free speech’.

    The countries that don’t do that still have freedom of expression (and they tend to have human rights protections even more expansive than ours), it’s just that it makes no logical sense to hide nazis (whose politics amount to advocating against human rights for particular people) under the skirts of human rights protections.

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      The countries that don’t do that still have freedom of expression (and they tend to have human rights protections even more expansive than ours), it’s just that it makes no logical sense to hide nazis (whose politics amount to advocating against human rights for particular people) under the skirts of human rights protections.

      The paradox of tolerance states that if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually ceased or destroyed by the intolerant.

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      I like to point to the tolerance paradox. If we want to be tolerant forever, there has to be a limit as to how tolerant we can be. And that anyone who preaches intolerance and hate deserves the gag order that comes their way. If you allow ethno-fascists to keep their platform, then you’re effectively telling them that it’s fine to be a violent asshat. It’s not. And if they claim FrEeDoM oF sPeEcH, this does not come with freedom from criticism. I am under no obligation to engage constructively with your message, it’s entirely within my right to at best for you, zone out and walk away, at best for me tell you to shut the fuck up and take your racist bullshit to some other place. Ideally some place where the sun don’t shine.

      Your freedom to randomly and violently flail your arms about ends where my face begins. As soon as your flailing your arms about starts to endanger people’s faces, you should not be surprised that people start taking action to protect their faces. And on the other hand, if your face is being endangered by people flailing their arms about, it is your right to protect your face.

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      They want to silence and kill the majority of the population - stopping them from being able to do that by whatever means necessary is the pro-free speech move.

      …also, stomping Nazis is fun - I recommend trying it.

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      How so? I’m not sure what news you’re talking about right now. You mean the rise of the far-right extremists AfD?

    • 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Even if US links were the reason to abolish the organisation, how would that make the German government fascist?

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        Germany built the Qatar stadium for FIFA. Last time I checked owning slaves makes you a fascist

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          It makes you a POS and part of enslavement society, but fascism needs nationalist mass movements, autocratic leadership cult, cultural isolation and imperialism. For example many colonialising societies (Ancient Greek, Colonial Spain/England) didn’t fit all the criteria, but were enslaving societies.

          I believe you, when you say German companies built stadiums in Quatar, but do you have a source for that?