Van de Velde was booed and jeered while competing at the Games. Dutch Olympic officials went to lengths to protect him from the press during the event.

He has now opened up to Dutch publication NOS about his experience, admitting that while he anticipated backlash, the intensity of it took him by surprise. "I definitely had a moment of breaking down, both before the tournament and during it. But I thought ‘I’m not going to give others the power to bully me away or get me away’.

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    Alright… now I’m willing to bet that most people on here, if asked, believe strongly in criminal rehabilitation. But the comments here make me think ‘maybe not’.

    Would someone please explain that?

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      Sure. He hasn’t taken any real responsibility nor faced adquete consequences for raping a child. He blames others for “bullying” rather than making any attempt to understand the outrage.

      If his crime had been committed decades ago, and he faced appropriate sentencing, and made steps at reconciliation with the community this would be a more nuanced conversation.

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        No sympathy for him from here, but this is an interesting conversation about justice.

        Is it his responsibility that the justice system gave him the sentence it did?

        Who gets to decide what is adequate consequences, how long ago the crime should have been, what is appropriate sentencing and what is appropriate steps of reconciliation?

        I agree with the gut feeling that he was sentenced lightly, but as the previous comment said, how do we combine that with a belief in the rehabilitation of criminals?

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          There needs to be some work on the part of the criminal. They need to at minimum show remorse and attempt to make amends with the community.

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            Makes sense. But does this community know whether he has done so? My understanding is that the crime was committed a decade ago, and that he admits fault. I assume nobody here followed it at the time.

            It seems this community has turned very quickly to an un-nuanced discussion with very little data.

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                Absolutely, but the morality of said rapist competing at the Olympics a decade later, after having served his sentence and possibly having been rehabilitated is a pretty nuanced subject, wouldn’t you say?

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        What does it matter? He was sentenced and served time. Wasn’t it enough, or what’s your argument here?

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          If you’re going to be an apologist for a predator at least understand the situation. It looks like you are arguing just to be contrarian- not a good look in this case, highly insensitive given the type of crime we are discussing.

          He did not serve his full eight year sentence. He was transferred back to Holland from England to serve the remainder of his eight year sentence - and was released the same year

          So to answer you: No he absolutely did not serve his sentence

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            First, don’t call me an apologists, you don’t know the first fucking thing about me or my beleifs.

            Second, it was a four year sentence, not eight years.

            Third, yes, he did serve his sentence and was released.

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      I absolutely believe in rehabilitation. I also don’t believe that a little over a year in prison for repeatedly raping a child is enough time to rehabilitate someone who did that. As I pointed out elsewhere in the thread, he’s done things like say it was a mistake, but he has yet to apologize for it. That, to me, says he has not been rehabilitated. In fact, I would say that one of the first signs of rehabilitation is to apologize for your actions.

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        If you think he didn’t serve enough time, that’s a flaw in the system. But then, that doesn’t answer my question…

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      I’d argue being an Olympian, which requires relying on a mix of public funding, ones own resources (usually family or sponsors), and gives an international platform, media coverage and potential prominence is a privilege given quid pro quo for behavior befitting that privilege.

      Post-rehabilitation and having served one’s time - There’s no reason this person couldn’t practice their sport in private, there’s no reason this person couldn’t be a private citizen with a regular office job.

      However, I’m sure you could agree that they shouldn’t ever be allowed to work with children again, so there must be a line of compromise you agree with.

      I’d also argue that knowing that one’s mistakes - although paid for - may have lifetime consequences - are also part of the rehab process. Like how alcoholics can never have one drink again.