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filoria@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago

China Rejects $1 Trillion Housing Rescue Plan Pitched by IMF

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China Rejects $1 Trillion Housing Rescue Plan Pitched by IMF

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filoria@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago
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  • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    China rescues people, not investors. 😏

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      That’s quite a fantasy you’re telling yourself. A huge portion of China’s people’s wealth is wrapped up in real estate, and tens of millions of stalled residential units have already been purchased by the Chinese people, and that money is now gone, taken by the developers.

      The IMF recommendation here was “to deploy ‘one-off’ fiscal resources to complete and deliver pre-sold properties or compensate homebuyers.” That would literally be rescuing the Chinese people who were burned by developers. Instead, the Chinese government is supporting the tech and manufacturing industries. Don’t pretend like China is some paradise where the common people aren’t getting fucked

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        Don’t pretend like China is some paradise where the common people aren’t getting fucked

        • Reuters, 2018: China overtakes U.S. for healthy lifespan: WHO data
        • United Nations, 2019: Helping 800 Million People Escape Poverty Was Greatest Such Effort in History, Says Secretary-General, on Seventieth Anniversary of China’s Founding
        • The Economist, 2021: At 54, China’s average retirement age is too low For most men in China the age is 60, much lower than the average of 64.2 in the OECD, a club mostly of rich countries. For female civil servants the age is 55; for blue-collar women it is 50.
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        I don’t know enough about this specific situation. But the history of the IMF and World Bank is such that, if they were to put out a statement saying that the sky is blue, I would immediately go and check if it had somehow changed colour.

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        meanwhile in the real world

        Chinese household savings hit another record high in 2024 https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-today-dow-jones-bank-earnings-01-12-2024/card/chinese-household-savings-hit-another-record-high-xqyky00IsIe357rtJb4j

        The real (inflation-adjusted) incomes of the poorest half of the Chinese population increased by more than four hundred percent from 1978 to 2015, while real incomes of the poorest half of the US population actually declined during the same time period. https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w23119/w23119.pdf

        From 1978 to 2000, the number of people in China living on under $1/day fell by 300 million, reversing a global trend of rising poverty that had lasted half a century (i.e. if China were excluded, the world’s total poverty population would have risen) https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/China’s-Economic-Growth-and-Poverty-Reduction-Angang-Linlin/c883fc7496aa1b920b05dc2546b880f54b9c77a4

        From 2010 to 2019 (the most recent period for which uninterrupted data is available), the income of the poorest 20% in China increased even as a share of total income. https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SI.DST.FRST.20?end=2019&locations=CN&start=2008

        By the end of 2020, extreme poverty, defined as living on under a threshold of around $2 per day, had been eliminated in China. According to the World Bank, the Chinese government had spent $700 billion on poverty alleviation since 2014. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/31/world/asia/china-poverty-xi-jinping.html

        https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2022/04/01/lifting-800-million-people-out-of-poverty-new-report-looks-at-lessons-from-china-s-experience

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        Don’t pretend like the average person in China is a fucking real-estate investor. This investment money is from the middle class and up i.e. people who don’t need to be rescued. They’re going to be fine. Even if their investments all go up in smoke, they won’t be homeless. Common people just spend their paychecks and keep a little aside for savings, like everywhere else in the world.

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        China already bailed out the buyers. Don’t know where you’re getting your info from. THIS perhaps? https://www.appropriations.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/FY21 BILL HIGHLIGHTS_SFOPS_final.pdf

        https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/7937/text?format=txt

        https://prospect.org/politics/congress-proposes-500-million-for-negative-news-coverage-of-china/

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          My info is from the article. Your info is from where?

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        I have you tagged as “shit lib and running for imperialism”, it tracks that you have the same view as the US state department.

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