%%excerpt%% Reddit has commenced its assault on search engines, blocking those that don’t have a commercial relationship with the company, like Google.
  • x00z@lemmy.worldEnglish
    113·
    6 months ago

    Hi, I’m new here. Because of the bullshit with Reddit. Greetings fellow Lemmy people.

    • kratoz29@lemm.eeEnglish
      2·
      6 months ago

      One only can hope, but until people learns that you can use other browser and other search engine not likely (I am talking on Google side ofc, Reddit might be affected by this in the long run).

    • tal@lemmy.todayEnglish
      01·
      6 months ago

      Blocking other search engines will hurt Reddit, all else held equal. But not by that much. Google is seriously dominant in the search engine market.

      kagis

      Yeah.

      https://gs.statcounter.com/search-engine-market-share

      According to this, Google has 91.06% of the search engine market. So for Reddit, they’re talking about cutting themselves off from a little under 9% of people searching out there. Which…I mean, it isn’t insignificant, but it isn’t likely gonna hurt them all that badly.

  • z3rOR0ne@lemmy.mlEnglish
    621·
    6 months ago

    I’ve posted this elsewhere, but it bears repeating:

    Just use ddg bangs if you use Duckduckgo and you can search reddit directly.

    !reddit search term

    or:

    !r search term

    It still picks up latest posts related to reddit, it just searches reddit directly instead of searching Bing’s results. It’s that simple.

    You can even use a redirect extension like Libredirect in conjunction with this Duckduckgo feature to redirect your search to a privacy respecting frontend like redlib.

    • squidspinachfootball@lemm.eeEnglish
      4·
      6 months ago

      I think !reddit just sends you directly to reddit and uses reddit’s search engine, which has been infamously bad. Has that changed? It doesn’t seem to be quite the same as appending “reddit” to queries to search for reddit posts, but using better search engines.

      • z3rOR0ne@lemmy.mlEnglish
        3·
        6 months ago

        Honestly, reddit’s search engine is okay, but yeah it doesn’t get as exact as standard search engines because I think it prioritizes keywords from the post title over comments and also prioritizes most recent posts over subject relevance. That said, the old reddit posts are still going to be accessible via standard not google search engines.

        I’ll admit this is somewhat of a bandaid fix, as should reddit keep this deal with google going, eventually this workaround will prove less effective than it currently is.

        This workaround just gets you the newest posts related to your query, and otherwise, for older posts, the search term reddit in search engines is still superior. So I don’t know, it’s the best solution I can think of for now.

  • Dr. Moose@lemmy.worldEnglish
    522·
    6 months ago

    Reddit responded: “Only google pays us”. The content is not yours. You built this of naive user base that just wanted to share now these fuckers are taking it as their entitlement. As early an reddit user - fuck that place, I’m still angry.

  • didnt1able@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    321·
    6 months ago

    I wish we had a government that functioned. This shot is 100% antitrust. How is it that this shit is let fly.

  • Burn_The_Right@lemmy.worldEnglish
    191·
    6 months ago

    Google just enshittifying even harder. Reddit results in Google searches are often old and anemic these days.

    I used to want Reddit threads to show up in search results. Now I avoid them because they are so often a waste of time. More reason to use Duck Duck Go.

    • ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      6 months ago

      I saw Reddit results in a search last night using DDG. It just said something like “It’s here on Reddit, but we’re not allowed to show you.” I wasn’t planning on using Reddit (never again), but that just irritated me.

    • gedaliyah@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      11·
      6 months ago

      “We always obey the robots.txt”

      • A bunch of corporations that have no accountability and plenty of incentive to just ignore it and have all been caught training AI on off-limits data.
  • Azzu@lemm.eeEnglish
    14·
    6 months ago

    I wish Lemmy were searchable better. The search function actually works decently well, but it’s not on the same level of actual search engines, it doesn’t seem to look for related/similar terms and also relevancy doesn’t seem right.

    • gedaliyah@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      10·
      6 months ago

      I do occasionally find Lemmy in web search results. The platform is not that big (or old), but as long as it sticks around then eventually searchability will improve.

  • MehBlah@lemmy.worldEnglish
    11·
    6 months ago

    Bing it is then. I hate Microsoft with the intensity of thousand suns but bing is now my jam as long as this lasts.

  • recapitated@lemmy.worldEnglish
    11·
    6 months ago

    I work for a different sort of company that hosts some publicly available user generated content. And honestly the crawlers can be a serious engineering cost for us, and supporting them is simply not part of our product offering.

    I can see how reddit users might have different expectations. But I just wanted to offer a perspective. (I’m not saying it’s the right or best path.)