• SirDerpy@lemmy.world
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    In order to vote, I think American voters should have to pass the same history test that immigrants need to in order to gain citizenship.

    edit: This sits at +11 because Americans don’t know their history. We already did it to African Americans and it went extremely poorly. That’s the point: Pick up a book.

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        Give that test to everyone. It’s just basic reading comprehension with a simple logic question and a simple math question. Even just that would disenfranchise the vast majority of American voters.

        My point wasn’t that a test is a good thing. It’s an incredibly horrible idea.

        My point is that the vast majority of Americans know less of their history than their immigrants. And, the vast majority of Americans are now in favor of repeating one mistake or the other because they don’t know their history.

        My evidence is that my suggestion above is predominantly upvoted.

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          They gave the test to everyone then too. They just decided who passed and who didn’t. Why do you think it will be different this time?

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            automated objective scoring

            You didn’t read my post. You’re strawmanning. Not your style.

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                You’re still bashing that straw man you made.

                Look up. You made a mistake. And, if it wasn’t you I’d simply block.

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                  Bud, that isn’t what a straw man is. Like, at all.

                  And “objective computer analysis” can still be wrong and biased. Look at all the image classifiers that called black people monkeys cause they were trained almost exclusively on images of white people.

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                  You could answer my questions or you could keep trolling up to you.

                  Also, please do explain how asking you how this test would be automated and objective is a straw man. Do you not understand what a straw man argument is?

                  Also, stop making this about me. If you want to block me, fine, but I don’t care about your expectations of me or what you think is a mistake or poor argument on my part.

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                    Why would I involuntarily defend a position I do not hold because some idiot can’t be bothered to use the reading comprehension and social skills I know they have?

                    please do explain how asking you how this test would be automated and objective is a straw man

                    Because I don’t believe in a test. I’ve told you twice. But, you’re uncharacteristically being a jackass, now even after you’ve slept on it.

                    I’ll make it about you because you’re a valuable member of the community whom I respect, and who’s seemingly not meeting their own standards of behavior (based on the past). If you don’t like it, block. I’m pretty close.