• jws_shadotak@sh.itjust.works
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    5 months ago

    What’s with all the hate on Signal on here? I see probably one post a week trying to bash it because of some unproven conspiracy about it.

    It’s a non-profit whose goal is to provide encrypted private chat.

    Signal’s subpar user experience is a feature from this perspective.

    Signal is literally just a chat service. The user experience is on par with any other service, except it’s backed by a trust in the company to not sell out on the end user because it’s a non-profit and isn’t beholden to any shareholders.

    • june (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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      5 months ago

      I mean, I can see why it’s brewed an anti crowd. Founded by Radio Free Asia, a USA propaganda arm, and was funded up until late last year.

      Additionally they have been aggressively pushed by the NED, an organization created to effectively conduct CIA color revolution in the overt.

      And finally, compared to the other major US developed and funded project Tor, it is very centralized. It requires a phone number to use. The open source code is very oftenly neglected with the repository being out of date compared to the code being pushed out in updates.

      Not every non-profit is your friend. Especially not non-profits that recieve funding largely from an agressive state that fashions itself as world police.

      Now, I do use it as the US government is not currently in my threat model and I’m in need of an accessible messaging platform that I can get friends, family, and coworkers onto. But if for instance, the next administration extends transphobic policies federally you best believe I’m keeping that information off Signal.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      5 months ago

      It’s a non-profit whose goal is to provide encrypted private chat.

      It’s a non-profit run by ex-CIA people that’s hosted centrally in US, and being aggressively marketed as the only legitimate means of secure communication. Any time somebody points out the many problems associated with Signal, people swarm in to defend it as the one perfect secure chat platform that everybody should be using. Weird!

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          5 months ago

          I think if you really care about privacy then you basically have to run your own for people you know and trust. At that point it doesn’t really matter what it is. It also depends on your threat profile. If you don’t actually care that people know your contact network, then Signal or any other app is perfectly fine. For vast majority of people it really doesn’t matter. The point is that Signal isn’t a good solution for people who do genuinely care about privacy.

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        5 months ago

        Yup, I got dogpiled with smarmy comments downplaying my pointing out that the Open Technology Fund (that’s affiliated with Radio Free Asia) audited the Signal Protocol. I still try to get people to switch to it from SMS or Whatsapp (with limited success, an ex was one of the few who already had it installed prior… cuz of their dealer), but it’s not like I have any illusions of organizing the revolution on the app