• 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    I’m not a dog breed expert, but…

    The other day an agressive dog that looked like a pitbull, suddenly lunged at me barking loudly… It was about 10ft away from me but still scared the shit out of me

    The owner yanked the dog back on its leash and i thought, “FML, the only thing that saved me from a deadly mauling was a 3/4 inch wide piece of nylon with a metal clip the guy bought off amazon for $5”

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      I was walking my dog through my neighborhood once, and one of my stupid ass neighbors had his dog loose in his garage with the door open across the street. When it saw me, it charged at us, barking aggressively. It didn’t attack me, it just stood a few feet away baring its teeth and barking while his overweight owner waddled over to it armed with a sandle. I think it was a labrador.

      If it was a pitbull though I’d likely be missing a limb or two today.

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      not if that is sarcasm or not, but most likely there was no pitull in that that dog.

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    Every couple of weeks I feed mine a toddler, it seems to keep the violent tendencies away.

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    Whoa grab some popcorn folks cause this comment section is a dumpster fire. Do we have a lemmy drama community yet?

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    Dog breeds all exist for a purpose either still relevant or now redundant.

    Before you get a dog, understand what that breed exists for. Even the best obedience training may not overcome generations of refined and selected natural instincts.

    It’s never the dogs fault. It is always your fault.

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    My neighbor has a pit mix and it snarled at me gnashing its teeth once as she walked by. I was just standing there by my car minding my own business barely even acknowledging them. I jump and yell Jesus wtf lady omg. She just made pathetic excuses, he keeps me safe, never does that, it’s fiiiiine etc. Ive told her numerous times she needs to train it at the bare minimum, preferably destroy it. I’ve observed it doing the same to other people as they walk past. I bought pepper spray and look out for them very carefully whenever I go to my car now. I bet it’s just a matter of time before someone gets mauled and I hope it’s not me. Fucking hate those things.

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      After watching my cop neighbor try to drive a dog away with pepper spray, it’s not going to help much. Even direct hits to the eyes didn’t seem to affect the dog much.

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        Oof, noted, thanks. I figured it’s a decent last resort but I guess not. Vigilance and avoidance are the best bet as usual. I’m not quite ready to buy a handgun over this.

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          When a pit latches on, the only thing you can do is choke it out. Strangle it until it sleeps. Nothing else will make it let go. It doesn’t feel pain, doesn’t notice knife stabs or bat beatings or anything at all. Just hope it has a collar you can pull with all your might.

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            Maybe I’ll buy that handgun after all. Really pisses me off that I’m forced to consider this option because people are too stupid and stubborn to realize they themselves owned walking untrained lethal weapons.

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      sorry you experienced that, it’s a poor owner, not a bad breed. we have a staffy mix that’s an adorable mutt, great dog.

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        Do you agree that retrievers are bred to retrieve things?

        Do you agree that herding dogs are bred to herd things?

        Do you agree that pointer dogs are bred to find things?

        Surely you’ve been around these kinds of dogs before. It’s not something that they learn; they are specifically bred to do a job and they will do that job even without training. You’ve seen or heard of how a sheepdog will herd small children, I’m sure. It’s why the breed exists; they are specifically bred to do a certain thing and genetically their instinct is to do the thing that they were bred for over the course of thousands of years. You can remove them from their mom and not give them any training and they will naturally do the thing that they were bred to do. You don’t have to train a golden to bring you back a ball.

        So is it a surprise that a dog bred to kill things will want to kill things?

        That’s not simply because of “a poor owner”, although the fact that people refuse to train their killer dogs to not be killers is part of it. It’s because their dogs are genetically predisposed to kill, just like a pointer dog is genetically predisposed to find things.

        It is absolutely a bad breed. Killer dogs should be banned worldwide. Every single pitbull, rottweiler, etc. should be spayed/neutered and the breed should end. They’re too dangerous and dumb owners have proven that you can’t rely on humans to keep them under control.

        It’s not the dogs’ fault, mind - it’s their instinct. But that doesn’t mean that future generations should have to deal with it.

        • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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          I had a retriever, she liked chasing ducks. Sometimes she would run to duck and then run back to me with this look on her face of “there is a step missing”.

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          They’re too dangerous and dumb owners have proven that you can’t rely on humans to keep them under control.

          That’s why we have laws in Germany that say that if dogs of certain breeds don’t pass character tests they have to be muzzled, and you might need a license (as in driving license) and a certificate of conduct.

          States tend to put American Staffordshire-Terriers (and therefore Bullies) in the harshest category, Rottweilers get off way easier.

          Those two breeds are nowhere close to comparable when it comes to aggressiveness. Rottweilers aren’t inherently aggressive, on the contrary they’re exceptionally chill and have a high anger threshold. But they’re also protective and if you aren’t chill yourself they will quickly become to think of themselves as the pack leader.

          Rottweilers are about as easy or hard to mess up a German Shepherds, it’s just that messing up passively becomes more dangerous as they’ll become overprotective, see imagined threats because you imagine them, suchlike. If you want to see a breed with inherent anger issues that’d be the Chihuahua.

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            Yeah Rottweilers are herding dogs, they herd children too and just love leaning into you. Herd dogs also protect their pack so they do need training and an owner who knows what they’re doing on top of extensive socialising.

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          Do you agree humans are made to shitpost? Because your demonstration is revealing.

          No one bred staffies or pits to kill. Cute though. Bet you’re a wonderful human being.

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        Bullshit. You think shitbulls got their reputation from thin air? Shit dogs for shit owners.

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          well with that airtight argument you’ll go far! you should work for the GOP with these kind of ideas, they’ll fit right into that shit show

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            Not at all a troll username - it is a new account, but I don’t like making up usernames so I just keyboard mash. I stand by everything I say though.

            Edit. I looked through your comment history. Bit hypocritical to accuse others of trolling with comments like that.

            Copy pasted comments that are totally in good faith:

            If only we could use statistics to cull people, too.

            I think we should genocide every dog because any dog is more dangerous than no dogs.

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              I just think we should be consistant. If we’re using statistics to cull creatures, racists are going to have a field day.

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                If we’re using statistics to cull creatures, racists are going to have a field day.

                Did you just insinuate black people commit more crime?

                Comparing other races to dogs is pretty fucked up to start with.

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            Why not defend your argument instead of attacking another person? It might be more effective and useful, you know unlike your vicious pitbull

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    “Genetics matter, but genetics are a nudge in a given direction. They’re not a destiny,” Evan MacLean, the director of the Arizona Canine Cognition Center at the University of Arizona, who was not involved in the research, tells NPR. “We’ve known that for a long time in human studies, and this paper really suggests that the same is true for dogs.”

    https://www.npr.org/2022/04/28/1095390872/dog-breeds-behavior-study

    I’ve noticed once someone starts talking about “breed determines behavior, it’s in their genes!!!”. It doesn’t take much more for them to start saying the same about other animals, like humans.

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      The whole human population has less genetic diversity than a random troupe of chimps, much less domestic dogs as a whole. We’re absurdly uniform.

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    I’ve got an Am Staff/German Shepherd mix and she is literally a baby. Whenever I’m on the couch she wants up and cuddles. If I go to bed she wants to sleep next to me. Even insists on making sure I touch her paw while she sleeps. Raise your dog right, socialise them, train them, and they won’t be a problem.

    Thank fuck I don’t live in the UK. It’s disgusting how they can go into your home and “destroy” a member of your family even if there are no complaints from anyone and never once been an incident. I hate violence, but I would absolutely become violent if the state tried to murder a member of my family without any just cause.