• ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 months ago

    Tbf child marriage is also traditional, Muhammed had a 9yo bride (it’s “ok,” he didn’t have sex with her until she was 11.)

    Defending things based solely on tradition can get pretty weird sometimes.

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      6 months ago

      That’s a tradition that ended a long time ago. I’m talking about traditions that are ongoing. Also traditions that, despite someone else’s claim, probably don’t cause any psychological harm, at least most of the time.

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        I think you may be surprised and hopefully disturbed by this UNICEF article.

        Despite a steady decline in this harmful practice over the past decade, child marriage remains widespread, with approximately one in five girls married in childhood across the globe. Today, multiple crises – including conflict, climate shocks and the ongoing fallout from COVID-19 – are threatening to reverse progress towards eliminating this human rights violation. The United Nations Sustainable Development Goals call for global action to end child marriage by 2030.

        So no, it was not “a long time ago.” It’s “hopefully by 2030.”

        Also traditions that, despite someone else’s claim, probably don’t cause any psychological harm, at least most of the time.

        Oh, so as long as you don’t believe the person and can therefore invalidate their feelings without guilt, and it only psychologically hurts “some” people who you I suppose arbitrarily believe over the ones you don’t, it’s fine?

        Not sure I can agree with you on this one.

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          6 months ago

          Believe what person? Hurts some people?

          I have asked for evidence that it hurts anyone and have not received it.

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            Also traditions that, despite someone else’s claim, probably don’t cause any psychological harm, at least most of the time.

            Actually you asked for nothing, you made a whole lot of assumptions instead. And

            evidence that it hurts anyone

            Here again you invalidate the feelings of those telling you with their own words that they don’t like it. The evidence they don’t like it is them telling you they don’t like it, you don’t need a scientific paper to corroborate that some people find it objectionable, you just dismiss them because you want to partake in the behavior they find objectionable.

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              I absolutely asked for evidence. I just didn’t ask you for evidence. Weird that you apparently read through my comments and didn’t see that.

              And not one person has told me that they were personally hurt by this happening to them. They have just said that it is wrong.

              You show me the person in this thread who said it caused them pain. I can’t invalidate feelings that people don’t have. Someone not liking something has nothing to do with whether or not that thing causes trauma or any sort of psychological damage to anyone unless it caused them that damage.

              And now I am asking you for evidence. Please quote the person that was hurt by their parents doing this.

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                  I do not believe that any more than I believe you are any sort of expert in psychology or understand what is legal or not legal to have on a phone.

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                    Oh ok so only if I have a peer reviewed case, not if it actually affected me, how’d I know that’d be your lame excuse.

                    I hope you show a kid those pics and they ask for copies for later, then it’ll get weird for ya.