Yeah well, fuck the American auto industry for not joining the 21st century.
It’s like when they dragged their feet making fuel efficient cars after the oil crisis
Ya if they want to survive its time to adapt and compete. This is what complacency sets up and I don’t feel bad for them at all. They saw this coming and probably just sat there expecting a bailout.
This is what happens when old fucks hold onto power and don’t change with the times.
Yeah, automakers pose a threat to automakers!
I doubt I will ever buy from the Big 3 again. Bailout parasites. Tried of these piece of shit too big too fail corps pulling this crap.
My next car will be a Chinese EV, if I have to drive it over the Mexican border myself.
China seems to be succeeding in EV vehicles, not just cars, airplanes too. I’m sorta pining for the days when we were talking about a North America Union. These days its all about protectionism and wars. :(
You can thank Trump for gutting NAFTA, making US companies weaker in the bloc as a result
The Earth is 🔥burning🔥, by our own hands, and we’d still rather play team sports for greedy sociopaths than prioritize even doing it a little slower with cheap EVs.
The Earth will heal in a few million years once we’ve destroyed ourselves. ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
They should be very concerned. However they have the advantage of time, place, protectionism. They already have factories and employees. The technology is known. They’re admitting they are aware of the market. The only way they can lose is if they don’t even try ….
We’ve spent years saying how short sighted they are to not be able to look ahead of the immediate term, now they’re admitting they can’t even look ahead 2-3 years
Sounds like some healthy competition the caps are always on about
Good, maybe GM will have the follow through to make an electric car successful now.
What? A full body crumple zone vehicle!? Where do I sign up!?
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Capitalism is clearly going to death us first.
I’m super conflicted about this. I want cheap EVs, but at the same time, China is intentionally dumping their prices to kill competition so they can later jack it up.
It won’t matter how fair things were if we are all dead.
I mean, EVs are not going to save the earth. Investments/innovations into our infrastructures will.
Nuclear power is the only thing currently that can save us. Unfortunately, we have ill-informed people not understanding what nuclear is.
I still want my nuclear car GM!
Nuclear can power hydrogen generators that power a hydrogen car.
Don’t even need to make any nasty batteries from cobalt. Or mine for lithium.
I just posted this article separately, but renewables and particularly solar combined with better storage are enough to save us. https://powering-the-planet.ghost.io/untitled-3/
That’s the problem. Storage. Current battery tech just doesn’t scale. Nuclear fills those gaps for night time and cloudy days.
We literally can just run 100% electric right now with zero emissions today if the world went nuclear. We already have the tech today. It’s scalable today.
No need to wait to develop new battery tech. Our future is in our hands right now.
They’ll ignore this because it doesn’t fit their narrative of one capitalist owning all the means of power. Cool article though!
So, what is nuclear?
The opposite of dumping is happening. For example the Kia EV5 is sold at [$20k in China](https://electrek.co/2023/11/17/kia-launches-20k-ev5-electric-suv-china-rival-tesla-model-y/) while the same made in China model is sold overseas [Starting at $46k](https://electrek.co/2024/04/04/kia-set-to-export-this-all-electric-suv-at-a-price-that-undercuts-tesla/)
KIA is also dumping. Those prices are not sustainable. Doesn’t make it right if others are doing it.
Well at least whatever profit Kia can’t make in China due to the low price. They can hopefully gain back from markets outside China thanks to the lack of competition driving prices down.
Have they tried being competitive?
Good
Oh no! Won’t someone think of the poor automakers!
I’m not pro US but I don’t trust anything made in China.
We have byd in Australia, and Australia has extremely high standard car safety regulations. The byd cars pass those, so China can’t be that terrible at making stuff. Like iphones for example, i bet you have one of those.
Really? Because a simple Google proves your wrong. https://www.wionews.com/business-economy/byd-to-recall-over-16000-seagull-evs-in-china-over-faulty-software-717035
Lol OK, an OTA update is just horrendous, clearly irrefutable proof of china’s horrible manufacturing standards, It’s not like idk Tesla and every other manufacturer of cars hasn’t had to do the same multiple times already.
Maybe leave you xenophobia somewhere else or go back to reddit? Your quick google search is embarrassing you.
Wow, I show you proof you wrong and you answer is “what about them” and “your a racist!!!” Gl not being able to think, you brainrot is serious, start watching and listening to people smarter then you.
It’s laughable how you think an OTA update is proof of “horrible manufacturing standards.”
Newsflash: Tesla and almost every other car manufacturer do OTA updates and recalls all the time. It’s standard practice to fix issues and improve software without dragging cars back to the shop. Singling out BYD for this shows a lack of understanding of how the automotive industry works.
Calling out xenophobia isn’t a “whataboutism.” It’s pointing out a real issue in your argument.
And for the record, my brain isn’t “rotted.” It’s perfectly fine and capable of recognising logical fallacies and biased thinking when I see it. Instead of throwing around baseless accusations, maybe take some time to understand the broader context before embarrassing yourself with poorly thought-out arguments.
Attacking others is usually a sign of intellectual insecurities. Perhaps work on your arguments rather than resorting to name calling and straw man tactics. It’ll make for a much more credible discussion
Rofl 🤣 are you ai? You just use buzz words without any knowledge of them.
I don’t think i used any “buzz words” here, the language i used was pretty simple.
Please elaborate on the “buzz words” i have no knowledge of, and maybe expand on how you’re reaching those bizzare conclusions.