• Eww@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Curious how many will defect once outside North Korea.

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      6 months ago

      According to hexbear you would have to have some deranged lib mind to believe any would want to.

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        6 months ago

        NKers are simultaneously brainwashed morons who follow their leader with fanatical delusion and utterly naive children who can be lured to defection by a few pieces of candy and a charming smile.

        The hexbears are too stupid to realize that all Koreans yearn for the unlimited freedom of their Southern neighbors and yet too wicked to believe the unvarnished truths of such media luminaries as Yeomni Park. They should all be sent to North Korea to eat grass and toil in the mines and get beaten to a pulp by Kim’s totalitarian police, then repatriated so that they can apologize for their ignorant beliefs.

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        6 months ago

        Those children are completely delusional. I saw a thread about why the entire country is unlit at night which was a parody of itself. I wonder what their demographics are, if not 100% bots.

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          6 months ago

          Surprisingly a lot of them on the Lemmy communities are also trans.

          I’m not sure they’re aware how LGBT people are treated in those countries. Either that or just willful ignorance I guess

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          6 months ago

          About 18% of North Korean defectors regret it.

          The number one reason is wanting to see family and friends who are still trapped in North Korea.

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            About 18% of North Korean defectors regret it.

            Around 20% of defectors have considered returning to North Korea. But that has less to do with the appeal of the North than the poor treatment of expats in the South.

            The South Korean immigration and labor laws make finding work south of the border incredibly difficult. North Korean expats are confined to menial service sector and grueling industrial work while being largely cut out of South Korean social life due to heavy stigmas against them. Its an incredibly hard life and not remotely like the glamorous existence of social elites that Americans claim drive the periodic defections.

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              6 months ago

              They need access to a better place. I suppose they just get financially stuck in S Korea? Or do the move on to other countries too, more willing to give them a chance?

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                6 months ago

                North Korean expats are functionally stateless, so it is very difficult to leave South Korea even when they do have money.

                The largest portion of the Korean diaspora live in China and Russia.

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                  5 months ago

                  Is it difficult because airlines and whatnot won’t carry them, or because the receiving country won’t let them immigrate due to being “stateless”?

                  Are they stateless in a way someone coming from Bolivia to the US isn’t, because NK’s outside of some globally-recognized state system? I’ve never considered this before.

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              6 months ago

              If so few people want to leave, why are so many resources directed into preventing people from leaving? I can’t think of any other country that works so hard to keep their citizens from escaping. Usually the largest barrier to leaving a country is the policies of the country you’re entering.

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          6 months ago

          I’m sure you’ll be able to provide me with a sound study confirming this.