But you are flat out lying. Gaza has built three desalinization plants in Gaza since this war has started. Every one of them built with charity. Every one of them built with materials that Israel allowed into the country. None of the three have been bombed.
Yes two aid trucks, two accidents, neither one was covered up, the perpetrators were fired and will be prosecuted. That’s normal for war.
And did you just ignore the hundreds of killed aid workers I mentioned (and linked a source for) in my last comment? You say just “two accidents” as if that’s it.
What’s not normal is a country that needs 500 aid trucks a day. Gaza has been dependent on handouts for decades
And half of Gaza’s water infrastructure being destroyed (based on BBC satellite photos and guesswork) also does not impress me.
It should not have been diverted to support terrorists holding hundreds of hostages underground for months on end. That’s why it was a target.
Oh no, poor Gaza. They gave all their water to terrorism and didn’t save enough for themselves. Policy has consequences. Your gripes are with Gaza’s water policy under Hamas, not with people who are defending themselves.
And like, Jesus fucking Christ. Did you read your own article? Did you look at the photograph in the very first picture in the article that shows the water tanks clearly were not targeted by Israel? No, of course you didn’t, because it doesn’t support your imaginary version of the evil Jew.
And half of Gaza’s water infrastructure being destroyed (based on BBC satellite photos and guesswork) also does not impress me
Wasn’t trying to impress you. Just clarifying that I was not lying.
Oh no, poor Gaza. They gave all their water to terrorism and didn’t save enough for themselves.
“Gave all their water to terrorism” - do you even hear yourself? Did the malnourished children “give” their water to Hamas? I can’t even believe you’re being serious here.
And like, Jesus fucking Christ. Did you read your own article? Did you look at the photograph in the very first picture in the article that shows the water tanks clearly were not targeted by Israel?
Yeah of course I did. It’s the middle one here. How exactly does this show it’s not been targeted? And if they really aren’t targeting them, why have 53% been destroyed or damaged? Are they the worst army at aiming in the world or something?
No, of course you didn’t, because it doesn’t support your imaginary version of the evil Jew.
Are you saying I’m antisemitic for believing the FACT that Israel has damaged much of the water infrastructure in Gaza?
Yes. There are 450 mi of tunnels according to Hamas in an area only 25 mi. wide.
It’s the most advanced tunnel warfare system in the world. It has been under construction in various forms and stages since the '50s. It was built with money from Iran, North Korea, Qatar, and other beacons of human and civil rights. It is hopelessly intertwined with Gaza’s water and electrical systems. It’s the crowning achievement of gaza’s current government.
It represents all of gaza’s lost hope. Gaza would be deep in food right now if maybe they spent money on highways instead of tunnels. If maybe they spent money on ports instead of tunnels, had used their international relations for trade and diplomacy, instead of terror financing and tunneling.
But also due probability, I simply trust the IDF explanation about a million more times than I trust the explanation of anyone who supports Hamas’s ideology. It’s not only an ideology of violent radicalism, it is also an ideology of a lying and propaganda. According to them, nobody is a terrorist And no buildings are connected to tunnels, every building is a hospital or mosque or home for orphans, and every person is an innocent child.
I’m very sure that Israel has some liars in charge right now. I simply trust the liars from the democracy more than the liars from the fascist religious ethno State, the sole function of which is to proliferate anti-jewish terrorism.
I don’t know that this particular building had a tunnel under it. Neither does anyone else here.
But also due probability, I simply trust the IDF explanation about a million more times than I trust the explanation of anyone who supports Hamas’s ideology.
So by “probability” you mean that you feel that the IDF is less likely to lie than Hamas?
Despite saying (correctly)
I’m very sure that Israel has some liars in charge right now.
The thing is, we don’t need to trust Hamas. There is a good chance there are tunnels under any particular building (far under but let’s put a pin in that for now). So when Israel bombs a water facility, there is probably a tunnel at least close by, about 10 m down or whatever.
But the question isn’t whether there’s a tunnel. The question is what Israel is targeting. The only people who can answer that are those in the Israeli government and military, which you acknowledge contains “some liars.” We don’t even need to see what Hamas says. So why do you trust their explanation?
I’m just not impressed by 500 bodies in a warzone. It doesn’t matter that they’re volunteers.
Aid workers. Protected by international law. But also it’s only about 250. I guess you are less “impressed” now as if that was the goal, lol.
500 died. Why do you ignore the tens of thousands who did not?
Yeah I broke your nose, but why are you ignoring the 205 bones I didn’t break? Hopefully you can see how stupid a thing this is to say.
Just kidding it’s because it doesn’t fit your narrative of the evil Jewish aggressor and makes you sound hysterical and idiotic.
Please show me anywhere on my entire Lemmy account where I have said anything negative about Jewish people because they are Jewish and not just because the ones in the IDF are DOING WAR CRIMES and also happen to be Jewish. I never even mention this because it does not matter. You can tell this very easily because if you do look through my account you will see me criticise Hamas for their war crimes and the US political establishment for supporting Israel’s war crimes.
But that’s the thing, you would be saying it’s an accident but if it happens again and again, why should anyone believe you?
I never said they wanted to kill all aid workers. They had just killed 254 by when that report came out. You don’t need to intend to kill all for it to be bad
Please read: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68969239
And did you just ignore the hundreds of killed aid workers I mentioned (and linked a source for) in my last comment? You say just “two accidents” as if that’s it.
Lol I wonder why 🤣
And half of Gaza’s water infrastructure being destroyed (based on BBC satellite photos and guesswork) also does not impress me.
It should not have been diverted to support terrorists holding hundreds of hostages underground for months on end. That’s why it was a target.
Oh no, poor Gaza. They gave all their water to terrorism and didn’t save enough for themselves. Policy has consequences. Your gripes are with Gaza’s water policy under Hamas, not with people who are defending themselves.
And like, Jesus fucking Christ. Did you read your own article? Did you look at the photograph in the very first picture in the article that shows the water tanks clearly were not targeted by Israel? No, of course you didn’t, because it doesn’t support your imaginary version of the evil Jew.
Wasn’t trying to impress you. Just clarifying that I was not lying.
“Gave all their water to terrorism” - do you even hear yourself? Did the malnourished children “give” their water to Hamas? I can’t even believe you’re being serious here.
Yeah of course I did. It’s the middle one here. How exactly does this show it’s not been targeted? And if they really aren’t targeting them, why have 53% been destroyed or damaged? Are they the worst army at aiming in the world or something?
Are you saying I’m antisemitic for believing the FACT that Israel has damaged much of the water infrastructure in Gaza?
They are targeting tunnels and terrorists, not water.
How do you know that?
Probability.
Can you elaborate?
Yes. There are 450 mi of tunnels according to Hamas in an area only 25 mi. wide.
It’s the most advanced tunnel warfare system in the world. It has been under construction in various forms and stages since the '50s. It was built with money from Iran, North Korea, Qatar, and other beacons of human and civil rights. It is hopelessly intertwined with Gaza’s water and electrical systems. It’s the crowning achievement of gaza’s current government.
It represents all of gaza’s lost hope. Gaza would be deep in food right now if maybe they spent money on highways instead of tunnels. If maybe they spent money on ports instead of tunnels, had used their international relations for trade and diplomacy, instead of terror financing and tunneling.
But also due probability, I simply trust the IDF explanation about a million more times than I trust the explanation of anyone who supports Hamas’s ideology. It’s not only an ideology of violent radicalism, it is also an ideology of a lying and propaganda. According to them, nobody is a terrorist And no buildings are connected to tunnels, every building is a hospital or mosque or home for orphans, and every person is an innocent child.
I’m very sure that Israel has some liars in charge right now. I simply trust the liars from the democracy more than the liars from the fascist religious ethno State, the sole function of which is to proliferate anti-jewish terrorism.
I don’t know that this particular building had a tunnel under it. Neither does anyone else here.
So by “probability” you mean that you feel that the IDF is less likely to lie than Hamas?
Despite saying (correctly)
The thing is, we don’t need to trust Hamas. There is a good chance there are tunnels under any particular building (far under but let’s put a pin in that for now). So when Israel bombs a water facility, there is probably a tunnel at least close by, about 10 m down or whatever.
But the question isn’t whether there’s a tunnel. The question is what Israel is targeting. The only people who can answer that are those in the Israeli government and military, which you acknowledge contains “some liars.” We don’t even need to see what Hamas says. So why do you trust their explanation?
Ahh yes the secret tunnels under every convenient bombing target.
The magical tunnels that rarely ever exist, and when they do the IDF plants guns in them as witnessed by the press.
I didn’t ignore them at all. I’m just not impressed by 500 bodies in a warzone. It doesn’t matter that they’re volunteers.
That sort of thing can happen when you volunteer to go to a war.
500 died. Why do you ignore the tens of thousands who did not?
Lol I wonder why. 🤣 Just kidding it’s because it doesn’t fit your narrative of the evil Jewish aggressor and makes you sound hysterical and idiotic.
Aid workers. Protected by international law. But also it’s only about 250. I guess you are less “impressed” now as if that was the goal, lol.
Yeah I broke your nose, but why are you ignoring the 205 bones I didn’t break? Hopefully you can see how stupid a thing this is to say.
Please show me anywhere on my entire Lemmy account where I have said anything negative about Jewish people because they are Jewish and not just because the ones in the IDF are DOING WAR CRIMES and also happen to be Jewish. I never even mention this because it does not matter. You can tell this very easily because if you do look through my account you will see me criticise Hamas for their war crimes and the US political establishment for supporting Israel’s war crimes.
I am anti asshole. Not anti Jewish.
That is stupid. Also not what I said.
You made the claim that the aid workers are being targeted.
The analogy would be that I broke one bone by accident and you then wildly accused me having desired to break them all.
But that’s the thing, you would be saying it’s an accident but if it happens again and again, why should anyone believe you?
I never said they wanted to kill all aid workers. They had just killed 254 by when that report came out. You don’t need to intend to kill all for it to be bad
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