That’s some exceptional watering down of the word terrorist you’re participating in there. Keep going and your both-sides-ing will make it so the IDF’s actions don’t seem abnormal at all!
Canada’s military was responsible for the subjugation and genocide of many First Nations group, including against the Metis, Cree, and Assiniboine peoples, as well as deployed abroad to subjugate the Boers in South Africa in support of the British Empire. The Canadian Army was also deployed in Afghanistan, where Western powers fought for two decades to replace the Taliban with the Taliban and caused untold amounts of suffering in the process.
Terrorism is any act that uses violence or fear of violence for a political goal. This is what militaries do, if you threaten them they use violence to suppress or kill you. Some of them are more successful than others, but fundamentally whether it’s a group of rebels or the military of a nation state, they use violence to force everyone within their controlled territory to submit to their authority.
That isn’t the definition of terrorism. There isn’t one globally agreed upon definition but national and international law and even attempts by the UN to make a definition generally exclude state militaries. (The UN attempts at a definition always broke down over the status of organized militias in the context of national liberation and self-determination struggles.)
The main exception is undercover agents. Like if a CIA agent pretends to be a civilian and does a terrorist attack, that’s considered terrorism.
Yes of course the UN definition is going to be carefully crafted to make the violence committed by its member states “legal” and the actions committed by anyone else “illegal”.
Im with you ! I know and understand people don’t like to see things this way, but I never saw any good argument as to why this nuance between legal/legitimate and illegal/illegitimate power should be taken into account in theory (other than practical matters, like it would be kinda hard to organize any other way now)
That’s some exceptional watering down of the word terrorist you’re participating in there. Keep going and your both-sides-ing will make it so the IDF’s actions don’t seem abnormal at all!
Considering Canada declared Iran’s army as a terrorist entity…
Not all militaries are equal. Iran != Canada - don’t fall into both-sidesism.
Canada’s military was responsible for the subjugation and genocide of many First Nations group, including against the Metis, Cree, and Assiniboine peoples, as well as deployed abroad to subjugate the Boers in South Africa in support of the British Empire. The Canadian Army was also deployed in Afghanistan, where Western powers fought for two decades to replace the Taliban with the Taliban and caused untold amounts of suffering in the process.
Now do Iran.
Do you agree? If so, why not?
Terrorism is any act that uses violence or fear of violence for a political goal. This is what militaries do, if you threaten them they use violence to suppress or kill you. Some of them are more successful than others, but fundamentally whether it’s a group of rebels or the military of a nation state, they use violence to force everyone within their controlled territory to submit to their authority.
I see you chose the double down
If you had a valid counter-argument, wouldn’t you have presented it there?
That isn’t the definition of terrorism. There isn’t one globally agreed upon definition but national and international law and even attempts by the UN to make a definition generally exclude state militaries. (The UN attempts at a definition always broke down over the status of organized militias in the context of national liberation and self-determination struggles.)
The main exception is undercover agents. Like if a CIA agent pretends to be a civilian and does a terrorist attack, that’s considered terrorism.
Militaries can be awful and violent and commit war crimes and even do the exact same things as terrorists. But it isn’t considered terrorism; it’s considered war. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definition_of_terrorism
Yes of course the UN definition is going to be carefully crafted to make the violence committed by its member states “legal” and the actions committed by anyone else “illegal”.
Im with you ! I know and understand people don’t like to see things this way, but I never saw any good argument as to why this nuance between legal/legitimate and illegal/illegitimate power should be taken into account in theory (other than practical matters, like it would be kinda hard to organize any other way now)