What I find fascinating is the total number of numbskulls and cartoon villains, all collected under the Trump banner, and that lunatic mob may very well take government.
What’s the hell wrong with American voters?
They are in a conservative news bubble or they don’t pay much attention to things that don’t directly affect them and attribute those that do to the wrong party. Or they’re just greedy or racist. Or stupid.
Take your pick, mix and match.
I’ll go with answer E: all of the above
Southern Strategy and decades of Fox News.
True. I’m gonna go out on a limb and add another reason: Money in politics.
When I was a kid, if a politician was accused of taking bribes, they would fall over themselves to deny the accusation. Later, the politician would simply reply, “It was pay for access, not a bribe.”
Now, they don’t even respond to such accusations. Bribes are so normalized that we don’t even notice them anymore.(For the pendants, yes there are pols that are occasionally punished for literally accepting bribes, some recently. My point is that there is little difference between literally accepting money and storing it in a freezer and having several billionaires fund your re-election campaign with dozens of legal loopholes.)
This allows The Rich to have a very heavy hand on the tiller for which way elections go. If rich folks weren’t pouring big money into elections (corporations are people too!) I’m willing to bet at least one political party in the US would be dead now.
My coworker is going to vote for Trump because gas prices went up in the last 4 years.
I think you need to be intentionally naive, or just an absolute shitbag, to want to vote for lower gas prices at the cost of increased human suffering. Let alone whether it’s something Trump could even deliver.
Also, consider what was going on 4 years ago: COVID. Gas prices went up because people are using their vehicles again , and because of that, oil isn’t in the negatives and gas prices rise.
Same thing with inflation. People weren’t buying as much crap during COVID. After that, corporations wanted some of that lost revenue so they raised prices and/or shrunk content. Then others followed suit due to need or greed. They all just went further than they needed too to up their profits.
Cough…Iraq war…cough
thats not why he’s voting for trump
Well that’s the public reason they are voting for Trump.
The private reason is that they are a boot licking fascist.
i think it is the reason that their voting for trump, not because they’re stupid, but because they have the entitlement to think that gas prices should be lower even though clearly they haven’t dissolved in bankruptcy yet.
What’s the hell wrong with American voters?
Rage at a system that doesn’t work and dreaming of being a person who doesn’t have to apologize for anything. There is a reason why crime movies, games, and TV shows are so popular. It isn’t that most people want to be going around murdering all day, it is they want to be able to.
On average, insufficient education and critical thinking skills because of a quasi-oligarchy that favors lots of desperate people to keep unskilled labor costs down. These oligarchs are also in league with sociopath religious leaders who know that religious recruitment is higher when life is miserable. Because 80% of our leadership are effectively solipsists, little is done to improve anything long term because it doesn’t benefit them immediately or personally.
Based on the probabilities we can derive from examining history, the situation will have to deteriorate for a few more generations before a widespread radical event changes key aspects of civilization. We should all try to change things now in less destructive and less risky ways, but I fear it won’t work.
lots of desperate people to keep unskilled labor costs down
America needs more unions sooo badly
We need more of these feel good stories. That put a smile on my face.
“But the pillow executive moved forward with an appeal anyway.”
God damnit… I truly hope that history looks back on this period of time as the outrageously ridiculous and overwhelmingly disappointing failure that it is. Fuck, man… God damnit, this is so FUCKING stupid.
History will probably unveil one of the largest psychological operations ever perpetrated by foreign actors in order to dismantle a hegemony and it’ll be clear as day. In a couple decades everyone will act at though it was totally obvious that in less than 10 years the ‘common sense’ rural folk decided to worship someone with used car salesman ethics and elect his entourage of unqualified nincompoops, none of which have enough intuition to start a lawnmower
“Less than 10 years” isn’t giving Rupert Murdoch the blame he deserves. Repubs have been working on this for decades.
I hope he’s forgotten. He wants to be remembered.
Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it. I hope he’s remembered, just poorly.
I’m okay with conservatives repeating a past where they con themselves into having to pay out $5 million and having all of their lawyers abandon them over trying to fight that.
Well said - I’ve said this since he first ran, but his truest instinct is to nuke the entire world a day before he dies to avoid even the chance that people laugh at him when he’s dead.
That said, he will die thankfully and I hold out hope that we will collectively raise the money to buy the land he’s eventually buried in, raise the body and live it to the middle of nowhere where we to turn it into the only public restroom within 50 miles of the closest mega truck stop - that our money also subsidizes to run a 24 hour all you can eat $2.99 fried fish, stuffed cabbage and chilli buffet.
My concern is that within a couple of decades this country will be converted into a theocratic fascist nation that won’t allow history to be taught (at least, not the “unapproved” version). My closest data point in support of this is the current projected electoral vote count: Biden - 224, Trump - 301, tied - 13. How in the hell (gerrymandering, media horseracing, and everything else) is this fraud LEADING?
Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy.
How common is it that lawyers walk away from a case?
I don’t think its that rare, but its not common. Usually it means that the client is breaching their agreement. Often that breach is in the form of they lied to the lawyer. Lawyers have confidentiality, so the only reasons to lie are external to the case itself.
Could also mean Lindell stopped paying them, probably for money troubles.
Thnx!
He cries into his own lumpy pillows at night
you’ve clearly never used one of his pillows
And now they never will.
How does one prove that someone does not have something?
I’m not sure but the mandatory arbitration lindell himself put in said to pay the guy, so it was as rigged as lindell could get it without it being illegal, and they still felt it was well-proven, and lindell should pay.
I claim that I have a five dollar bill in my pocket. I challenge you to prove me wrong.
We turn my pocket inside out. No five dollar bill is there. I lose the challenge.
In Mike Lindels case, what was the pocket that he was forced to open, revealing no data was there?
It seems like such a ridiculous exercise.
From the article:
Engineer Robert Zeidman entered the “Prove Mike Wrong” challenge and proved that Lindell did not possess data showing that the 2020 election was stolen from former President Donald Trump
Yeah, that clears it up!
The “pocket” that he was supposed to open to show proof was the file(s) he claimed had proof of election fraud. When he opened the files there was no proof, just unrelated data and gibberish.
this is unfair exploitation of mental illness.
Mike Lindell is an American hero with a story of success, making a great pillow everyone loved and making himself wealthy in the process
his religious delusions are a form of either mental illness or partial handicap and he shouldn’t be stripped of everything because of that
his belief that the election was rigged AND he had the secret proof (that would hold up to court scrutiny) was clearly a religious delusion and if you think otherwise you don’t understand how cults and mental illnesses intertwine
in a just world, this deal should be something he doesn’t have to honor because he offered this “prove me wrong” thing to the public when he was clearly out of it
what about all the people he employed? the people he made happy with a decent pillow? we as a society have failed by allowing the religiously delusional to enter into any sort of unusual contracts at all. yes, the amish should be allowed to sell grain and the menonites should be allowed to sell delicious jams, but should we really allow right wing religious maniacs to enter into complex contracts?
no, of course not
this man should be given ALL his money back, and an apology from society for exploiting him. this man worked hard in life and doesn’t deserve this
I mean, the options seem to be “this man is mentally ill, he needs to enter adult conservatorship” or “this man is an adult, who made a contract, and is being held to a contract”
He doesnt seem to be so far gone he needs a conservator, so his contracts are valid.
there needs to be some sort of space between “this person needs a conservator and can’t have any rights” and “this is a logical rational person who can contractually give away 5 million dollars because he’s filled with religious delusions”
It sucks, but there is a lot of precedent in the US for “you are allowed to be as stupid with your money as you want, as long as you’re sane.”
He may have delusions around his religion or beliefs, but he has the rights to have those delusions and beliefs, and if he wants to place bets on his beliefs because he holds them that strongly then he can. If someone else spots him as a mark and takes advantage of him, sure it was dumb of him, and they may not be in the cleanest moral area, but that’s America, learn your lesson and move on.
You go to New York and some guy sells you a newspaper that helps raise money for charity and the homeless for $5 and you believe him then find out it’s a free paper all over the city, that’s life.
We can protect you when you don’t know any better, but when you bet everyone in the room that you can fly and you can’t? That’s a hard bet to make buddy, and a harder bill to pay.
The reality is he is an older American and 5 million dollars is a lot, it’s not a 5 dollar bill. This is exploitation and society is only allowing it because he’s a right wing religious idiot.
The guy held a contest for $5M. Why are you defending him for not paying out? He is supposed to be credible, no?
No one of even mild to low intelligence thinks Mike Lindell is a credible person.
This is a person who had a positive attitude and made a lot of money making pillows, then got older. He is religious and religion and aging affected his brain, especially because he’s clearly not that bright to begin with as evidenced by his religious beliefs. Plenty of people do well in society without being that intelligent because they have a positive attitude.
Stripping this person of 5 million dollars is a form of laissez-faire elder abuse wrapped in the artifice of polite society and it’s blatantly vile.
Just because he’s a disgusting right-wing religious idiot doesn’t mean that elder abuse is acceptable, and intelligent people in society should have the decency to prevent this sort of thing from happening.
you really just keep rattling on about religion and religious beliefs don’t you, you seem to almost carry the same behaviorisms that you apply to lindell.
