• retrospectology@lemmy.world
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    You do realize Trump was already president, right? And that our current president is literally funding a genocide?

    The fear mongering doesn’t work. Field better candidates that can actually win elections against convicted felons and you don’t run into this issue.

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      Do you realize that if Trump becomes president again, his people have made absolutely no secret about their plans for seriously ramping up the ongoing trans genocide?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_genocide#United_States

      And now it’s your time to either downplay and/or deny that genocide or pretend it isn’t happening or that Trump won’t make it worse. Anything but actually admit there’s at least one kind of people whose genocide won’t bother you.

      But please, do surprise me on this front.

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        Americans do need to experience the reality of where neoliberal politics have brought us before they can be made willing to resist it.

        You’ve got to understand, trans people are losing their rights right now already, they’ve been a struggling class of people for decades, the neolib public does not actually care. Sure, they’ll tokenize trans people and their struggles as a political cudgel, but in the end this election is about protecting the comfort of upper middle-class neoliberals, that’s why they demand people vote for a conservative – they themselves don’t want to experience the consequences of their lackluster politics, that’s for minorities, not for “normal Democrats”.

        There’s no more kicking the fan down the road, no more “lesser of two evils”, you guys are going to need to admit what it takes to win elections or you get to go down with all the groups you’re standing on to keep your own head above water.

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        No. But the fact that Joe Biden’s big selling point here is “I’ll theoretically fund genocide less than Trump” is not really a compelling distinction.

        You’ve got to take a step back and look at what you’re supporting to really understand why Biden is struggling. Compare Biden’s position on Israel to, say, Ronald Reagan’s. Really kind of puts it into perspective that you’ve quite literally been made into a Republican in all but name. All using the same fear tactics every election cycle.

        Well, we’ve reached the bottom of thr hill doing it your way, Democrats are literally paying to kill children now, how much further down were you guys saying we need to go before your magical “long term progress” kicks in?

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      You do realize that former president Trump was such a strong ally of Israel (since he let his zionist son-in-law run it) that they named a new settlement on stolen land after him, right? And that he’s never shown the least bit of interest in helping the Palestinians, right? And that his mid-east peace plan was normalization of relations between other Middle East states and Israel, right? Do you think Trump is going to take a stand against Israel if he gets elected? Honestly, what do you expect for him to do to the Palestinians? Send better bombs to kill them with? Stop pressuring Israel for a ceasefire or aid deliveries so that more Palestinians die from war or starvation? Please do share how you think Trump will end the genocide.

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        Not only all that, but also Trump has promised to deport pro-Palestinian protesters. Thinking he’s going to be the hero of Palestine is remarkably insane.

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          Bet it’ll be FAR worse if you get your way and Trump is elected. But along with it being worse, you can say goodbye to the LGBTQ+ and any body autonomy women have remaining.

          You have NO idea what’s going on here. They’re playing with live ammo buddy. This isn’t a joke.

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            Women and lgbt people are already losing their rights. I think it’s you who’ve lost your way.

            Look again at what your “lesser evil” is doing. Where it’s gotten us. You’ve literally been pushed so far to the right that you’re here defending the deliberate starvation of tens of thousands of children. You’re completely politically and morally disoriented.

            That’s you. That’s the fruit of your support right there in that image. Go ahead and justify it to yourself however you want when you cast a vote, it doesn’t change the reality of what you’re saying is acceptable for Democrats to support.

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              So name someone better. Come on now, you pulled me up to the pump… let’s get some gas now! Name a candidate. Who can win that will have both the power AND authority to end your genocide?

              Come on. I’m sure you have ideas. You can’t be here ONLY to stop people from voting….

              Right?

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                    Huh? I named someone better than a pro-genocide candidate; a literal inanimate object. Unfortunately the DNC has not left us with any electable options, only an old far right genocide supporter.

                    How is that trolling? Biden is helping starve tens of thousands of kids. That’s a fact. You might support that, I do not, you can’t rhetorically trick me into thinking that’s ok. You understand that, right?

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                  So you’ll vote for Trump. Come out and say it you absolute coward. Come out and say you want Trump to win without pretending you’re some faux-intellectual.

                  Go plant 🌻🌻

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              Women and lgbt people are already losing their rights.

              Repub SCOTUS is the Dem’s fault, classic.

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                The Dems are just as complicit for not acknowledging or addressing the danger we were in from the Federalist society. First I heard of the plan to capture the courts was almost twenty years ago, people were warning about it, neolibs refused to treat it as a real threat.

                Instead we got idiots thinking they could rely on “decorum” and tradition, on patting their Repub colleagues on the ass like it’s a baseball game, instead of admitting what we already knew; the right is fully fascist and out for blood.

                The loss of the court is the fault of every single dipshit neolib who chose to believe that the courts weren’t a political arm, that they were actually non-partisan. It’s the fault of Ginsberg for arrogantly clinging to power despite being sick for years. It’s the fault of Democrats for refusing even now to entertain the possibility of packing the court or trying to implement term limits on justices by cycling them out to other federal positions.

                They were too busy sucking corporate dick, protecting the status quo and sabotaging progressives like Sanders because he wanted functional healthcare and to take away their binky of lobby money to even see what was happening around them, let alone organize a resistance to it.

                The blind greed and deliberate incompetence of Democrats makes them complicit.

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      Go back to /pol, chud. Don’t forget to pray to your Nick Fuentes altar first

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      The problem with this argument is this very article, which is also backed up by interviews with John Kelly, Bill Barr, and others. Everyone verifies that that Trump wanted to do all the crazy stuff from prosecuting Hillary to executing former members of his administration for speaking out against him, but they’d just delay until he’d get distracted and move on to something else. Again, these are people who eagerly signed up to work for Trump, and changed their mind based on their experience with him.

      This next time around though, Trump will try to hire people who are more likely to be yes-men. What happens then?

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      Said trump troll replies to comment warning people to be on the lookout for trump trolls

      It’s laughable and you remind me of the other types of trolls that name starts with v

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        There’s no “exposing”, I’ve been pretty clear that my goal here is subverting the Democratic right-wing, that shouldn’t shock anyone.

        Like, why are you acting like that’s some huge reveal? Yes, I’m anti-genocide, go ahead and label me, though I think your reliance on labels is kind of what got us all into this mess to begin with. It’s why you’re a Republican in any practical sense of the word.

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          Ah yes, “subverting the Democratic right-wing” if favour for republican fascist regime.

          Lowest paid russian-troll-farm worker.

          “uwu I’m anti-bad things, I’m so pwogwesive”