• BigTrout75@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    How can this be? All the games I buy on Steam are cheaper than on other platforms. Where are these cheaper games?

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    This lawsuit build on a false premise. Steam doesnt have a price parity clause for other stores. What this lawsuit alleges applies to Steam keys that the developer generates through Steam. If the developer lists those keys for sale at a price lower than what the game is listed for on Steam, then the price of the Steam Store purchase price must match it, so that people visiting the store page on Steam get the same discount. It doesn’t matter if you list your game on GOG and discount it there.

    Its literally helping players.

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    How is Lemmy so anti corporate, but bends over backwards to defend steam as an immaculate corporation. I love steam, and 90% of my game purchases or from their store. 5% are from stores that let me redeem steam keys.

    I think their market position should have some scrutiny.

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      7 months ago

      Mainly because Steam actually provides a really good quality service. Most corporations over time charge more while getting worse on quality. People can sell their games for cheaper on Epic which only has a 12% fee, but Epic’s service is much worse.

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      They’re not immaculate. They used to outright deny people the right to refund their games, but they turned that around after a massive lawsuit from a government agency. Good change! I support that. But they’re not behaving in an anti-competitive manner. What, are they supposed to intentionally make themselves worse in the hopes that other stores pop up? That’s not how any of this works.

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        7 months ago

        Obviously. I’m Lemmy and against that. But there are dominant pov’s on Lemmy that saturate threads and are reflected in up votes and down votes

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      7 months ago

      We’ll let their position have some scrutiny when the PC marketplace has some actual decent competition, I’d rather not shoot the PC gaming sphere in the foot just because Lemmy hates corporations.

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    7 months ago

    In 2022 the median household income in the USA was $74 580, that means 50% of households had less than $74 580 in income.

    A person that has at least a billion in wealth (like Gabe Newell) owns at least the equivalent of 13 409 times the median income.

    I would love to illustrate it by copy pasting $74580 13409 times, but it creates a comment too long Lemmy.

    If we go by net worth instead?

    https://www.fool.com/research/average-net-worth-americans/

    5190 US medians, 25 615 US medians for people under 35 (the crowd on this platform).

    No one deserves that kind of wealth and anything that’s done to prevent it is a good thing.

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      Your point is valid but this kind of lawsuit isn’t really the way to go about the change you’re describing

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        Suing them because they’re making too much profit isn’t the way to go to make it so they’re prevented from making too much profit in the future…

        Eh…

        Ok

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          yes you’re right this is a lawsuit about too much profit and it will directly set a precedent where companies aren’t allowed to have too much profit.

          Pretty smart, as a leftist maybe I’ll sue every corporation for being privately owned, this is a whole new avenue for systemic change. You opened my eyes

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        That’s why I included both numbers, but if you know how to deal with your finances, at some point wealth is pretty much the same as money.

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          You have confused the two numbers. Again, what is NOT money.

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            Check my comment

            I talk about wealth then I talk about income, compare both, then I compare wealth to net worth (which is how you measure wealth)

            If you have enough wealth, it’s used to get money as your wealth is used as collateral, you don’t need to be rich to do that, you just need to own stuff that is paid for. I know people who only own a house that isn’t worth a fortune, the got a mortgage on it when the rates were down to 1% to invest it at a higher interest rate, their not rich, they just have wealth that can be used as collateral to get money.

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      I saw some stats the other day that if you remove the top 1000 incomes in the united states the average drops to around 35k. So that average of 75k is bullshit.

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    I won’t say no to cheaper games. The 30% cut was settled upon in the days where physical copies were the norm and Steam was still under heavy development. Given how established Steam and digital distribution in general is, it’s not really fair to developers to dedicate almost a third of the price of the game to a hosting platform. Yes, exposure is important, but that’s a service provided passively due to the fact of being the largest platform. Reducing Steam’s cut hurts no one except maybe Gabe’s ability to buy another yacht (and even then, not likely). Even if customers don’t see lower prices if Steam were to reduce their cut, it’d be great to see the actual developers getting more money from the games they put all the effort into making.

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        Somehow production costs increased exactly as much as valve’s cut got reduced. Crazy, ain’t it?

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        The end of my post is where I address this. Publishers have the option to use their bigger cut to reduce prices, but even if they don’t, money is moving closer to the people actually making the games possible instead of a platform provider. There are also a lot of indie developers. It’s not just all greedy publishers.