Overall this event was pretty mid imo 🥱
Beginning to feel like this industry is stagnating. Just doing enough to appease the stockholders and pump the stock.
Phones are completely boring now, colours should not be newsworthy but they always get a mention because everything else moves at snail’s pace.
At least Jobs had vision to push innovation.
The tech has peaked. There aren’t gonna be any new bangers. No one has needed to upgrade for like 6+ years now
Yeah pretty much! Everybody keeps complaining that the new phones aren’t very innovative and like… what do you want them to do? I can’t really even imagine anything more a phone can do with current technology other than incremental improvements. Maybe I just lack imagination, and I guess there’s some stuff I want like USB C and maybe to eventually get rid of the notch for FaceID… but I just don’t care enough to replace my phone until it dies. Honestly my current phone is barely any different from my phone from 10 years ago for all intents and purposes. The only thing I want my phone to do that it doesn’t already is software stuff… Like allowing sideloaded apps, or better support for things like nfc for transit systems… Hardware wise… What could I possibly even want?
Colour: grey-variant
Wish this had the fun non-pro colours. Looks a like solid polish model year
All I want is a true black one. The non pro always has the nice black.
It’s anodized titanium. You have to pick from a number of physically possible colors.
PVD coated not anodized
Dammit, I want my impossible colors.
Impossible Colors? What are you? A mantis shrimp?
I did not plan to upgrade this year, but also didn’t expect Spatial Video capture until next year. I’d like to start capturing video for the Apple Vision Pro as soon as possible.
Pricing though… translating my local price back to US it will be $2245 for the Max with 1TB 🤢
According to my 3 year cycle I’d be due for this one. But I’m not really convinced tbh.
Smartphones have just been so boring for the past few years. Ever since they all started getting full screen displays and multiple cameras, every year has felt like small incremental upgrades. You probably wouldn’t gain very much by upgrading even from a 3 year old phone.
iPhones won’t be interesting to me again until they get a completely new form factor like folding or something.
Nothing creative, someone do something different please. I like seeing the hidden cameras that was true innovation.
Honestly the last iPhone I felt truly excited for was the iPhone X. That felt like the phone Apple was leading up to for a decade. Then the 14 Pro came out and I’ll admit, the Dynamic Island was very creative. Not really innovative, but creative.
What was so cool about Jobs is that he had this brain that wanted to take risks and come up with crazy shit that may have only been theoretically possible, and push the talented engineers to make it happen.
That being said, I don’t know why people are so surprised. Jobs isn’t around anymore, and smartphones have matured to a point where there’s nothing to push. What exactly are people hoping to change?
Biggest upgrade for me were foldable screens and 120Hz refresh rate. High refresh rate feels so good when you first try it. But generally speaking it is all incremental and not worth yearly investment. In general I buy devices every 4 years or so but most of my devices end up being used at least 6-7 years.
Yeah, my 12 Pro is going strong and I don’t see any reason to move. USB-C is the biggest feature upgrade for me.
I have a 12Pro as well, and, honestly, I think the cameras on this thing are kinda trash. I like the phone and it still works well, but I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t intrigued with the new phone.
To each their own. I carry a mirrorless when I want good photos. Apple’s post processing is obnoxious and if I’m going to shoot RAW I’d rather have options on glass and settings.
USB-C is certainly nice, but it also has its transition pains. I’d be more than happy to have it, but I’m not in a rush to get it as fast as I can.
It was around for longer than the 20-pin. It’s long past time to join the rest of the world.
USB-C is nice (although I don’t relish having to replace all my Lightning accessories), and the camera improvements are always good, but I think I’m still happy with my 13 Pro for now.
I hate that Apple never talk about RAM size… I mean, I know most Apple users don’t even get to worry about this anymore due to how iOS works… but still, it is hardware after all…
Why does it matter? They don’t have a java base that needs 4 gigs
Well, refer to my last sentence in the previous comment… now that I think about it… they also are never clear about the battery capacity, regardless they have the best software to measure its capacity/battery life to this day 🤔
Nor does Android. Android uses Dalvik VM, which is not the same as JVM.
On a PC, more RAM is always better.
In a phone, more RAM taxes the battery more.
There is a right amount of RAM, and more importantly a right way to tune the process management for power savings.
But the only measurement of that is the end user experience. MB of RAM just isn’t a useful number.
Bruh, I’m currently facing RAM management issues with my Android phone, RAM matters for all aspects of technology especially android phones (my device has 6 GB of RAM, I should have gotten the 8 GB variant because I enjoy all the aspects of a smooth multitasking), in my case probably RAM amount ain’t the problem but the aggressive OS RAM killer, but yeah my main point is, there is a reason why we have gotten bigger RAM amounts with smartphones, including iPhones ofc, and it is getting tiring to wait for teardowns to see the Apple offer.
Well, call me uninterested, but I have never had to think about my RAM size on my iPhones, and I’ve been with them since the 1.0.
Total storage size, yes, but even that is becoming less important with the air of cloud services.
I think if you want to shop specs, Android may be for you.
and I’ve been with them since the 1.0.
Lucky you, I had an iPod Touch 4G, an iPhone 5 and an iPhone 6, and they eventually crapped out because the RAM wasn’t sufficient, I think things got insanely better since the iPhone 6S and onwards thanks to those sweet 2 GB of RAM!
Yeah, people who’ve had iPhones for 10 years and never noticed lack of ram, probably do not know what they are looking for.
It was extremely common a couple of years back for apps to close down every time you switched app due to low amounts of ram. It’s much better today though. But definitely noticeable if you stay on a phone to long of a time.
The benefit of iOS is it’s optimization towards the hardware it runs on. Android isn’t just Samsung. You have Xiaomi, Samsung, Pixel, OnePlus, Asus, Huawei, Oppo… And the list goes on. All these variations in hardware (flagship and lower end devices) that Android has to support makes optimization far more difficult, making high RAM capacities such a desirable feature (although, not the only reason for why some devices struggle).
Software has matured so much that these concerns of iOS vs Android performance does not matter all that much anymore. Each function great in their own way.
As open source, I don’t see why Android can’t be optimized for its hardware, or its hardware developed optimally for the software.
They just don’t do this.
It’s not that they don’t want to, it’s that it doesn’t make sense. Android (Google) does optimize for a broad range of hardware, but it would be a waste of time for them to optimize for specific devices.
Their pixel lineup runs stock Android. That’s what Google offers, so that’s what you’ll get.
However, companies like Samsung do ship their devices with custom software, which allows them to optimize it to their hardware (though I’m not sure how much). Then you have the option to install (if the software supports the hardware) an alternative OS (Calyx, Graphene, Lineage, etc). This can remove bloatware and allows the option to de-google your device… Resulting in a better performing device.
Apple is lucky in the sense that they own their own hardware and software. Android owns the software, not the hardware.
When I said “they” I meant OEMs. Google can’t force them all to optimize. But I don’t see why an OEM can’t do exactly what Apple does.
Will we ever solve cameras? How much more can they really do for cameras? Will there ever be a new iPhone if the perfect camera is invented?
I’m not sure what you mean by solve cameras.
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It’s not like they issue the absolute limit of the state of the art in each phone, and new scientific breakthroughs drive what’s in the next phone.
There are occasional breakthroughs in technology but they don’t make it into phones until they become cheap and reliable.
So this year manufacturing processes are really scaled up on Perfect Camera iteration 1005. There are also devices out there that already have iteration 1008 but they are niche and expensive and buggy.
In two years, 1008 will be more reliable and manufacturing will be scaled up for it. They will introduce it into a phone in 2026 and you will roll your eyes and say “gee where did they pull that from!”
But it’s a continuous ramp of improvement: mostly driven by how successfully and how quickly small improvements move from lab experiment to full scale manufacturing.
Pro models actually got a price decrease in the UK, unless I’m missing something.
Now I just need to decide whether to match my phone to my watch and get the natural titanium, or whether to go for the blue.
Oh, and, Pro (like usual) or Pro Max (seems a bit big!).
Yes, it looks like a £100 price reduction. It’s rare that Apple products get cheaper in the UK, so at there was at least one surprise at todays event then.
My hands struggle with the 13 Pro, I don’t know how I’d manage with the 15 Pro Max. Anyone know how to grow longer thumbs?
Waiting for 16 or 17 with replaceable/swappable batteries.
I thought about ditching my 14 pro for a 15 pro just for the titanium.
Then I remembered that I put it in a case anyways.
I’m gonna upgrade from my 13 pro max and work is gonna pay for it. Yay.
I’m just waiting for the new iPhone LongBeachGriffy vid
But will it have 0 day 0 click vulns
It’s not a titanium frame. It’s still same old aluminium, just PVD, that is to say thin layer over same material as before. It’s not going to make it any stronger.
