considering the current state of the world and things like the resurgence of fascism and other authoritarian ideologies, do you think there is still a chance to avoid a new world war or now is unavoidable?

  • lurch (he/him)@sh.itjust.works
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    considering we have a record of over 6000 years of overlapping armed conflicts and wars, yes absolutely.

    there has not been a single worldwide peaceful day for thousands of years.

    it’s not 100% sure the ones currently going on will be called world wars. maybe it will be a new one. there’s always another war, unfortunately.

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    We’re already in it. There are currently 57 conflicts in the world, of which several are international. Things will escalate. World tension is rising, the far right is on the rise, it’s the 1930’s all over again. Or at least, in some parts of the world. In other parts it’s already the 1940’s, with totalitarian regimes, genocide and concentration camps.

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    It’s already underway.

    China will attack Taiwan before Christmas. That’ll likely be the flashpoint. That’s been my two cents for over a year now.

    North/South Korea going at it.

    North Korea supplying Russia arms to fight Ukraine.

    US okaying more and more, blurring NATO lines. NATO is basically involved in the Russia Ukraine war.

    China and India appear to be buying Russia oil/gas still, keeping their war machine afloat. Amongst other financial vestments.

    Then we have Israel pummeling Palestine. Iran attacking Israel. NATO countries don’t agree about whether or not this is a genocide.

    When China invades Taiwan, TSMC will shut down their facilities. The US has been pouring billions into semiconductor manufacturing on US soil, because when China invades Taiwan and tscm shuts down, Google, Microsoft, OpenAI, Nvidia, AMD, Intel, IBM, Meta, Amazon, and many more will be in hot water. Because of this, the US has an insane naval presence and alliance with Japan to protect the South China seas.

    This is world war three. It’s happening now.

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    The biggest issue is extremism on both sides of the political spectrum. Division and hate are extremely easy to stoke and the left is at least as complicit. Unless people change their mindset to and remove the barriers they put up between people, conflict will be inevitable.

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      The right: “I think we should deport anyone with brown skin, incarcerate the LGBT community until they learn to stay closeted, execute black people without trial and force raped children to give birth, all the while gutting environmental protections, welfare and anything else that might cost my rich friends money”

      The left: “Then you’re a cunt”

      You: Both sides so divisive!

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        You’re part of the problem till you can step back and understand others opinions. Generally people mean well.

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            Oddly they have some arguments that the hard left would agree with normally if it wasnt so polarised.

            For example critical race theory would say institutional racism caused disparity right? So is institutional racism bad? Or just bad if it preferences a race you prefer?

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                Empathy, trying to understand others, reasonable discourse…look into them mate 👍

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                  Oh I understand those far-right “others” just fine. They’re all the abusive partners, parents and bullys we’ve all known. The ones who will torture their own family members for doing something, anything, without their unpredictable stamp of approval. The ones who eagerly twist and lie and manipulate people to get what they want, saying vapid shit about “empathy and understanding” that they have no intention of following themselves.

                  The Republican party is indefensible and by extension, so are those that support them, from Fox News all the way down to fuckstains at the local bar. They’ve made themselves a shining beacon for the worst people in America and I’m comfortable writing every single one of them off.

                  Because if they were actually capable of empathy, understanding or reasonable discourse, they wouldn’t be far-right in the first place.

    • StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world
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      Can you describe the extremism left of spectrum?

      Honest question, not JAQing off, and I won’t jump down your throat no matter what you say.

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        Hmmm can you describe the extremism of the right? Perhaps you’d characterise it by racism, violence, and repression of certain people?

        The hard left wants exactly the same thing, with the same violent methods, just slightly changed racism and repression.

        Have a laugh at this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev373c7wSRg

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      Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe.

      — Albert Einstein

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        true but anyone stupid enough to take on a NATO ally is going to be surprised how quickly that “world war” is over

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          A big part of the alliance is credibility. Far right political parties have called into question weather NATO is worth it. Even if we are a strong alliance the mere appearance of questioning can cause an opponent to misread and attack.

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            agreed thankfully the far right is still small and with a bit of immigration reform should be wiped out