• VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        I’m sure it’s just a complete coincidence then that republicans fought against marriage equality and adoption for same sex couples.

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            Ah, so you can exclude gays. And that means:

            Republicans don’t by default have anything against gays.

            Because hey, every time they do everything against gays there’s an excuse! There’s been loads and loads of excuses over the years, but hey, they really don’t have anything against gays!

            Jeez, done critical thinking would be good.

          • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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            And they are wrong because this is America, not a Christian theocracy.

            I’m not a Christian. I’m Jewish and an atheist. My wife is also an atheist. We’re married. By your excuse for Republicans, we aren’t.

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              I don’t see how that makes sense, unless you’re also a woman. And even then, I really like ben shapiro’s approach of ‘it’s not the governments business to decide who gets to marry who’.

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                Because we did not get married based on any Christian tradition.

                Neither does anyone else.

                Marriage is a civil ceremony and America is a secular nation.

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                Because they see ‘marriage’ as a christian description of matrimony between man and woman

                I guess it depends on if it’s described as christian matrimony between man and woman

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              I was on their side when the debates around it reached their peak, but I don’t misunderstand homosexuality as unnatural or gays as mentally ill. In my mind it was about semantics, but I’ve since realized how that could be perceived as homophobic.

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                Unless you were advocating for a legally equivalent alternative to marriage just with a different name for people who do not fit your incredibly narrow requirements for marriage, how exactly can you claim you weren’t trying to discriminate against people?

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                6 months ago

                Character growth, good. For the future telling people they don’t get to have legal rights because of your book is discrimination and the problem.

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            Then they should demand that the state gets the fuck out of any marriage business. Unless they don’t believe in the separation of church and state, that is.

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        Haha, so they’re just complicit.

        I’m sure you’re quick to chime in with “not all cops” too.

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          So there’s a state prosecuting gay people, and a person named after that state is getting prosecuted for being gay. If you can’t see a fat irony here, you’re 100% immune to it.

          Also, there’s no single word about blaming, merely an observation. Don’t put words from your head into other people’s mouth.

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            Seeing the irony and saying someone got what they bargained for are two different things. Only the latter is victim-blaming, which is what was done.

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                Do you think that sort of trolling comment is going to help you here? Because you’re already on thin ice for saying a queer person deserves to be persecuted for being queer because of their username.

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                  Primo, on what thin ice? Over what?

                  Secondo, I very much enjoy watching when people are arguing over remarks they made up instead of grasping the essence of what an opponent says. I challenge you to point where I said what you said I said.

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        Just for your information, but Russia hasn’t been part of the USSR for over 30 years now. Also, Putin’s Russia is extremely different to the USSR, in that it is now ruled by far-right religious fanatics. I don’t think that would fit well into the USSR.

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          Just for your information, USSR in 80s ran operation Denver - a massive disinformation campaign to plant a belief that aids was created in USA laboratories. You, my pedigree chum, should go home and do your homework.

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          In practice USSR was fascist since Stalin came to power. Argue all you want here, but the only difference was social hierarchy. On paper. As sold to common folk. In practice, since Stalin, a rigid hierarchy was established and enforced. It had a name, Nomenclature.

          USSR was authoritarian - one guy run the show since Stalin.

          Ultranationalist- soviet vs rest of the world. Argue till you are blue, but soviets its just a different name for the nation concept.

          Centralized autocracy. People did not rule jack shit.

          Militarism - they sure do love their parades.

          Forcible suppression of opposition.

          Belief in natural social hierarchy. Nomenclature is one thing and the same as current day oligarchy. People were trained to uphold it.

          Hell, equality in USSR was also worth jack shit. In the 90s russia opened archives. Guess what, georgian soviets were sent first to the meat grinder. Prime example Battle of Berlin.

          And for fuck sake. USSR forced other countries into their system. Suppressed culture, enforce russian language. That is ultranationalism.

          Also, hello. We as a group of people have a mortal enemy. That mortal enemy is ever present, weak, but always encroaching. Ever endangering us.

          If I have to spell it out, it is a staple of fascism.

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    USSRboy sounds like a nickname for someone who enjoys Sino-Soviet cooperation propaganda posters a little too much

    All the more power to him though.

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    One would have to live under rock to not expect anything bad happening when living life this way openly in Russia. Not that it’s justified what authorities do, it isn’t