“[…] imperfect victory”
What? Are they going to push some winter war narrative after this is over?
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wow, how original
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should really work on that reading comprehension
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Tell Ukraine to stop overthrowing democratically elected governments, and to stop killing its own people in the east.
What democratically elected government did Ukraine overthrow?
Its own government, in 2014, with the help of the US.
- Reuters, 2014: Leaked audio reveals embarrassing U.S. exchange on Ukraine, EU
- Leaked recording between Nuland and Pyatt: audio | transcript
- CouterPunch, 2014: US Imperialism and the Ukraine Coup
- Consortium News, 2015: The Mess That Nuland Made
- Jacobin, 2022: A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War
- Consortium News, 2022: Evidence of US-Backed Coup in Kiev
- Al Jazeera, 2022: Why did Ukraine suspend 11 ‘pro-Russia’ parties?
Oh. So got couped. Is couped a word? It read like Ukraine was going around creating FreedomTM for other countries.
Either way haven’t heard much about this allged coup of Ukraine so I shall read those and make up my mind on it.
The US has wanted to break up or otherwise weaken/isolate Russia ever since almost immediately after the break-up of the USSR. That’s why it’s been expanding NATO ever-closer to Russia despite originally having sworn up & down never to move one inch eastward. The US couldn’t allow a Ukrainian government to stand that was friendly with Russia.
The US doesn’t want Europe and Russia to develop closer ties, because it doesn’t want the “Eurasian landmass” to ever cohere, because then it would become too self-sufficient and powerful for the US to control. Zbigniew Brzezinski laid this theory out when the Soviet Union fell. That’s why the US tried to convince Europe not to build Nord Stream 2 and then later not to turn it on, why Biden said he would “bring an end to it” if Russia invaded, and why they ultimately did bring an end to it.
The US also very much wants regime change or balkanization in Russia so it can resume its neocolonial plundering of it, which started under Yeltsin and ended under Putin. That’s why the US has a special hate for Putin in particular.
The US has been meddling in Europe ever since WWII, and Ukraine has an even longer fascist history.
- The U.S. Did Not Defeat Fascism in WWII, It Discretely Internationalized It
- History of Fascism in Ukraine: Part I, Part II, Part III, Part IV
- BBC, 2014: Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict
- Human Rights Watch, 2014: Ukraine: Unguided Rockets Killing Civilians
- The Hill, 2017: The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda
- The Guardian, 2017: ‘I want to bring up a warrior’: Ukraine’s far-right children’s camp – video
- WaPo, 2018: The war in Ukraine is more devastating than you know
- Reuters, 2018: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem
- The Nation, 2019: Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine
While you’re at it - also read up on Ukraine’s “Orange Revolution”. Since gaining its independence, the only way Ukraine has managed to install pro-western governments is by revolutions and coups.
This is as useful as polling relatives on whether a couple should go through with a divorce.
If the relatives were the ones funding the marriage then it would be a better comparison.
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The least deranged liberal has logged on everybody.
You never know what you’re gonna get from the “no tankie shit” instance.
Weird how the anti tankies are the ones who are literally screaming for more tanks.
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scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds
I wonder what this deleted comment said 🤷♂️
Anyone with an account older than mine knows where the modlog is.
Russian propoganda much?
Ah yes, Institute for Global Affairs, a famous Russian propagandist outlet 🤡
Funny how there’s no, “Yes the war should end with Russia’s total withdrawal from their illegally occupied territory” option
I wish sanctions included cutting Russia off from the Internet. A majority of these both sides and Russia supporting accounts would magically go offline.
Still sticking with BlueAnon conspiracy theories?
- IT Pro: Cambridge Analytica models were exaggerated and ineffective, [UK Information Commissioner’s Office] claims
- Wall Street Journal: Mueller Doesn’t Find Trump Campaign Conspired With Russia
- Jacobin: Democrats and Mainstream Media Were the Real Kremlin Assets
- Washington Post: FEC fines DNC, Clinton for violating rules in funding Steele dossier
- Washington Post: Russian trolls on Twitter had little influence on 2016 voters
- Jacobin: It Turns Out Hillary Clinton, Not Russian Bots, Lost the 2016 Election
- Matt Taibbi: Move Over, Jayson Blair: Meet Hamilton 68, the New King of Media Fraud The Twitter Files reveal that one of the most common news sources of the Trump era was a scam, making ordinary American political conversations look like Russian spywork
- Jacobin: Why the Twitter Files Are in Fact a Big Deal On the Left, there’s been a temptation to dismiss the revelations about Twitter’s internal censorship system that have emerged from the so-called Twitter Files project. But that would be a mistake: the news is important and the details are alarming.
- MSNBC Repeats Hamilton 68 Lies 279 Times in 11 Minutes
- Jeff Gerth at Columbia Journalism Review on Russiagate: Editor’s Note | Part one | Part two | Part three | Part four
- Matt Taibbi: WMD, Part II: CIA “Cooked The Intelligence” To Hide That Russia Favored Clinton, Not Trump In 2016
- Chris Hedges: Why Russiagate Won’t Go Away
Funny how there’s no, “I want a pony and a trip to Santa’s workshop” option
I wish sanctions included cutting Russia off from the Internet. A majority of these both sides and Russia supporting accounts would magically go offline.
Ah here come the liberal values of free speech and democracy. 🤡
