• Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
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    7 months ago

    This is why good teams are essential. One person to do all the bullshitting, and the rest of the team to actually get stuff done while the bullshitter deflects all the other bullshitters.

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      7 months ago

      PROVIDED the bullshitter doesn’t turn inward. A PM with those skills unleashed on the team is hell, and is guaranteed to drive talent away.

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      7 months ago

      “Bullshitting” is an essential skill, not a distraction. The greatest idea in the world is meaningless if nobody knows about it.

      Marketing, scmoozing, etc gets a bad rep. But no matter how good your output, product, research, etc is, it has very little value or impact if people don’t get on board.

      If you can’t play the game, team up with someone who can. And don’t forget that while that schmoozer may not have your technical skills, they have a skillset you do not.

      It wasn’t Woz or Jobs. It was both.

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        7 months ago

        Yep. We’ve got me a technical guy who loves deep diving in theory and understanding the why of everything, and a smooth talking ex-Navy guy who is good at thinking on his feet and has great mechanical acumen. Last but not least, we have the guy who uses a sick day whenever there’s work scheduled, and then shows up the next day and goes on some libertarian rant about how any progress we’ve made since the 19th century is a sign of our country going down the toilet. Dream team baby

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      7 months ago

      Ok so what happens when the bullshitter gets all the recognition and nobody believes you when you try to prove otherwise? Document and take legal action?

      • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        Seconded. The “face man” gets to be the public face and thereby a lot of the social credit and perhaps most of the work credit as well.

        We see people like this all the time in management who take all the credit for the work from those who actually did the work.