KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — Ukrainian forces have secured “combat control” of areas where Russian troops entered the northeastern Kharkiv region earlier this month, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said.
Meanwhile, two people were killed Saturday in an aerial attack on the city of Kharkiv, which is the region’s capital, according to local officials.
Kharkiv is about 20 kilometers (12 miles) from the Russian border. Moscow’s troops have in recent weeks captured villages in the area as part of a broad push, and analysts say they may be trying to get within artillery range of the city. Ukrainian authorities have evacuated more than 11,000 people from the region since the start of the offensive on May 10.
“Our soldiers have now managed to take combat control of the border area where the Russian occupiers entered,” Zelenskyy said in his nightly video address on Friday evening.
Zelenskyy’s comments appeared to be at odds with those made by Russian officials.
Honest question here, any website that’s accurately tracking the current reality in Ukraine? Within reason of course, it’s an unstable situation by definition. I see a lot of headlines that make it sound like Russia is winning, and then some articles claiming Ukraine is kicking ass hahaha. So I honestly have no idea what’s going on because of the flood of propaganda.
Just in case, I really really have no horse in this race. I’m from latin america, so this only affects me via globalization. But I would love to be able to track the situation there just for morbid curiosity.
There’s this map: https://liveuamap.com/
I haven’t been following the war very closely, but AFAIK, they’ve been in a stalemate for many months with neither side making any significant gains.
Thank you man! This is exactly the kind of thing I was looking for.
Accurate? No. You’re not going to get accuracy. Not right now. Between the lack of enough impartial journalists in the field, propaganda from both sides and just the fog of war, you’re not going to get it.
I’ve been using deepstatemap.live which has proven accurate and reasonably up to date in the past. When things are moving fast though it may fall behind.
There’s a bit of uncertainty principle at work. The more accurate the data, the less up to date it’s gonna be.
Thanks! I will check it out.
Ukraine is absolutely not winning, but propaganda and deception is really important in war. It’s important for Ukraine to have the world think they have a chance otherwise people are less likely to assist in a lost cause.
Russia have half a million dead, wounded or missing while holding less than 20%. They have lost control of the black sea, they lost a submarine to a force that doesnt have a navy. They have fucked their economy and made complete dicks of themselves on the world stage.
Lets not pretend there is an inevitability here, at the beginning we were told they should abandon ship, then we were told they cant hold and now the likes of you are speaking as if there is a foregone conclusion.
Yes, you make good points, but still Ukraine is not winning.
Propaganda and deception are vitally important in any war.
It is strategically important for Ukraine to have the world think they will win, otherwise other countries are less likely to assist at all.
Is this rephrasal more palatable?
It’s absolutely a forgone conclusion and your assertions are unhinged. Ukraine is losing eminently, and actively. They have lost, permanently a lot of territory and have trouble keeping the lights on. The economy is entirely decimated and without foreign weapons and monetary aid they would fall within weeks.
Sure thing buddy, Russia is getting bent over by China and Iran right now. Taking in weapons from North Korea, with terrible quality assurance because their own logistics, forecasting and top minds could not stand up to the results of their own actions.
Guys, I mean this what I’m talking about lol. I guess the answer to my question must be in another thread hahaha. Have fun
The only relevant answer is that nobody knows for sure. Ukraine is doing their very best but they’re fighting not only Russia but also the combined effort of all the fuckwits that support Russia materially, i.e. China, Iran and North Korea etc. it’s not exactly an easy position to be in, even if their tech is of lower quality than what we have in the west they’re also able to churn out a lot more, and that shows.
On the other hand, it’s pretty telling that Russia is resorting to what amounts to long range terror bombing in between human wave attacks. They used up a lot of manpower last summer, and it can’t be easy to replace those losses. They do have access to a lot more human resources, but again, of dubious quality.
Russia is certainty hoping for another 4 years of the orange fuckwit in the White House though. That’s where the real danger is. If that happens all bets are off.
I mean, you are probably right, I have no clue lol. But this entire thread is exactly what I was NOT asking about. And you guys get mad with me for pointing this out lol. I was literally asking about a place to check “raw” data about the conflict. Thankfully, some dude actually shared a site like this in a different reply. Obviously, I will have to check it to decide how reliable it’s. But that was what I was asking about, not this …
Ukraine is fighting against the “second best army in the world”. Everytime that you open a map and you see that the border didn’t move, that is ukraine kicking orks asses
death to putin.
i want to see st petersberg burn where so many cowards hide.
No mappers seem to confirm this… There are reports of Ukrainian counteroffensives in the area, but nothing that goes so far as to indicate that Ukraine has taken back control of all of Russia’s territorial gains there. If anything, it’s starting to look like another stalemate along a new frontline.
Is Zelensky talking out of his ass? Are mappers receiving delayed data? Who knows…
I think it’s where Zed said its “combat control,” meaning that they can call on fire missions on the whole area, not that they reoccupied the land
I mean… No shit? ATACMS has a range of 300km, and it’s not like Russia’s pushed the front line 300km.
“When you secure an area, be sure to tell the enemy.”
I think the enemy knows if they have been kicked out?
