David Lloyd and his wife, Natalie, who were full-time missionaries, were attacked by gangs and were both killed, Rep. Ben Baker said. David was 23 and Natalie was 21.
  • jmanes@lemmy.worldEnglish
    672·
    7 months ago

    Good god. I feel bad for them on two fronts.

    1. That’s a brutal way to die and at a young age.
    2. They were so delusioned by religion that they put themselves in danger to spread around ancient mythological texts to random people.

    In no way is religion worth the events.

  • kromem@lemmy.worldEnglish
    335·
    7 months ago

    A lot of victim blaming in this thread.

    I don’t agree with their theological views, and I don’t love that indoctrination is so often tied to humanitarian efforts.

    But these are people who were trying to help out children in the middle of the second worst humanitarian crisis in the world right now, and the one that very very few people are giving much attention to as the other dominates news cycles and most of the Western world has just written off Africa as a whole (oops). (Also, I think this may be the only story about Hati on Lemmy in recent history, in fact).

    They didn’t ‘deserve’ getting brutally murdered for sticking around and not abandoning the children’s schools and homes they spent the past decades cultivating.

    They did a lot more to help people than I ever have, even if a key factor in their doing so was what I might consider delusional thinking.

    And so even if I’m not a fan of some aspects of their lives, I respect what they did do, and think it’s a bit fucked up to be making light of their deaths.

    • Chef_Boyardee@lemm.ee
      91·
      7 months ago

      I’m surprised myself at the amount of people wishing death onto others throughout this community. It’s definitely weird to me.

      • kromem@lemmy.worldEnglish
        51·
        7 months ago

        If you want an unsettling thing to think about, look into Calhoun’s rats.

        Social media has essentially overcrowded our functional distance with one another.

        You could be on a ranch with no one around for miles, and yet you have hundreds if not thousands of other people are directly interacting with you giving and competing for dopamine hits.

        And just like the rats we now have people not leaving their domiciles, being apathetic, hedonistic, etc. We’re mentally falling apart because we’re just too overcrowded.

        “Tankie!” “Fascist!” “Heathen!” “Religious nut!” “Zionist!” “Antisemite!”

        (Eventually the rats end up eating each other.)

        Yet here we both are. That dopamine drip sure is nice…

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    • harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      1013·
      7 months ago

      So, we are 100% that they weren’t proselytizing while doing their charity work?

      It’s sad they were killed but any sort of missionary work is colonialism. “Your religion isn’t good enough. We’re here to save you.”

      Additionally, they probably knew how dangerous it was. It’s not they were killed doing missionary work in Denmark.

      • thechadwick@lemmy.world
        54·
        7 months ago

        Absolutely one of the worst takes I’ve seen.

        These aren’t settlers and they weren’t running a Canadian Indian school burying children out back either. Kids trying to share their beliefs (misguided as they may be) aren’t colonizers and if they aren’t welcome, execution is not the right answer you troglodyte.

        It’s not rocket science to expect a society to condemn extrajudicial violence. Your opinion is bad and you should feel bad about it.

  • catloaf@lemm.eeEnglish
    1918·
    7 months ago

    I respect the work they were trying to do, but like… everyone was saying to GTFO of Haiti nearly a year ago. It’s not worth your life.