• tooLikeTheNope@lemmy.ml
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    7 months ago

    But without the gun, no one would be killed by the gun.

    … those ones not killed by the gun would be killed by the next lethal device in place of it, it is the will which drives the action, not the device

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      7 months ago

      Guns are essentially magic spears. They pierce with great force at very large distances. The next down are toys in comparison.

    • 𝓔𝓶𝓶𝓲𝓮@lemm.ee
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      7 months ago

      Lmao but at least next lethal device isn’t something that has sole purpose of killing people.

      Like how stupid you have to be… guns only and one numbero uno purpose is killing people. And they are fucking good at it, nothing else comes close.

      A knife? Bitch please you have to get close, grab the victim and stab many times. It’s easier to run away from a blade than from a fucking bullet unless you are Neo.

      What’s the purpose of legal gun ownership?? To defend against legal gun ownership. It’s a fucking ouroboros of stupidity.

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      7 months ago

      Your opinion is not grounded in fact as represented by statistics from a wide range of countries.

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        7 months ago

        Then it will be something else.

        Mind I’m not defending the free-guns-for-all policy so dear to a sadly large part of americans, I’m just saying that the tool is not the real issue, that one would be the finality of the action and the fecklessness, the morbidly carelessness and yet horrible thoroughness, attached to the though of ending or seriously harming another person. That one is a cultural problem, and very deep.

        Sure guns were instrumental to spread and nourishing such culture, but if it wasn’t the gun then the will to kill would have been manifested through the next available tool.

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          What next tool are you talking about?

          Guns are specifically designed to kill people as quickly and efficiently as possible and at great distance. Take that tool away and you put some serious limits on the will to kill.

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      Guns are the easiest method to kill people with. A spree stabber isnt going to kill and main NEAR as many people before they are dealt with as a spree shooter will