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Yes and in 2019 Musk’s claims went even further, when he claimed it was stupid to buy anything but Tesla, because next year (2020) You would be able to make money on it as a RoboTaxi. As I recall it was $200,000.- you should be able to make on a Tesla per year!!! Why he sold them then is a bit strange?
He also claimed that instead of losing value, a Tesla would increase as much as five times in value in a year, because FSD was worth that much.How this man hasn’t been jailed for fraud years ago is beyond me, I could understand if USA was a corrupt country for the rich…
oh… Never mind.He’s a military contractor.
Yes with Starlink which the military threatened they might nationalize if Musk sabotaged Ukraine access again.
I honestly don’t think Musk’s value as a military contractor is very high, and probably (hopefully) not enough to protect him from criminal liability.if Musk sabotaged Ukraine access again
Yes because snopes is a better source than CNN, WaPo, BBC, AP News, The Hill, Reuters and on and on.
Also he has admitted it himself:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66752264
Elon Musk says he withheld Starlink over Crimea to avoid escalation
So why don’t you just butt off with your bullshit already? You are hereby reported.
Jesus christ dude. There’s quote from the author himself, Walter Isaacson who is the person from whose book the whole claim originated from.
To clarify on the Starlink issue: the Ukrainians THOUGHT coverage was enabled all the way to Crimea, but it was not. They asked Musk to enable it for their drone sub attack on the Russian fleet. Musk did not enable it, because he thought, probably correctly, that would cause a major war.
You believe him when the narrative suits you but you don’t when it doesn’t. Talk about cognitive dissonance lol
Enabling Starlink in Crimea would have been against the sanctions to Russia by the US. Literally illegal.
Anyway I’m done with you. Don’t bother replying.
Fuck the Musk and his inflated ego.
Finally?
Sorry Tesla but every captcha about bicycles and street lights was just too good an opportunity to be bad! LOL … bicycle! 🚲 Nah! That’s just 🛣️ road! Continue!
That’s not how FSD works. It’s a neural net trained on millions of hours of video content of good human driving. Nowhere in the code is even specified what a bicycle is.
Is that why it runs stop signs?
It was millions of hours of BMW owners driving.
The part of the claim here where they wouldn’t upgrade the cameras is a part that I’m highly interested in.
I don’t expect tesla to upgrade any hardware beyond what they believe is required which they claim hardware 3 is.
But the moment a hardware 3 car can’t flip a switch and become level 3/4 SAE autonomous and a hardware 4, 5, 6 or whatever it is if/when solved is required, I think there’s a massive lawsuit there unless Tesla somehow upgrades the cars.
Suddenly the car didn’t come with the hardware required and can’t function as described, especially back when it was announced.
Tesla will say, oh we’ll get it working on HW3 next year… and try to kick the can to avoid liability, but I don’t think that will work long.
Edit: and as per the ruling, it sounds like the new knowledge that the car can’t on HW3 but can on others, would trigger new knowledge opening up past the statute of limitations
Hahahahah fuck Elon’s fraudster ass
bye bye elon
He is rich all there will be is a minimal fine
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I bet if this goes to trial his lawyers are just going to argue that no reasonable person would believe these claims. That is just hyperbole there for it is not fraud.
Maybe, but you could easily argue that no reasonable CEO would make such claims. And any company that size should have levels of review and therefore liability if there were people who clearly knew it was false.
Totally, though the hyperbole defense is real and much easier to argue. They will just say that Musk is part hype man for Tesla. Rhetorical hyperbole has been confirmed by the supreme Court to be a first amendment protected activity. You may feel this is dumb, but was also how John Oliver was able to repeatedly tell Bob Murray to eat shit.
Interesting. https://youtu.be/rPt9hAC24MI?feature=shared
Ironically this comes at a time when FSD is getting so good that the car does indeed practically drive itself. It’s still level 2 but the amount of driver interventions reguired to reach your destination has dropped to near zero. I don’t think we’re very far at all from an actual robotaxi and the ability to use your personal vehicle as such.
Meanwhile Mercedes has already reached level 3.
The link you didn’t open has a video comparing Tesla and Mercedes driving the exact same route on autopilot.
Still ignoring the fact that this technology was advertised to arrive by 2017. It’s seven years overdue.
That’s false advertising.
It’s seven years overdue so far.
FIFY.
I don’t know what this has to do with what I said. It’s long overdue, yes. It was false advertising, yes. It’s incredibly good nowdays, yes. Several things can be true at the same time.
Forgive the imperfect analogy, but if my wife left me because I wan an alcoholic, and I came back seven years later saying “I’m sober now!”, you think she’s going to take me back or have moved on with her fucking life?
Yeah I have no idea what you’re trying to tell me. You’re not going to buy a Tesla because they lied about FSD a decade earlier? Ok. Good for you?
As I explained somebody else the other day, software development follows a 90/10 rule in that 90% of the work that needs doing is in the last 10% of the result and these guys have been stuck for years at the “almost there” stage.
It’s perfectly possible to hack your way for the first easy 90% of the result but that software development “method” won’t get you up to the 99.999% levels of reliability (or whatever number of nines the regulations demand) needed for a FSD system to be certified as autonomous.
So no amount of people showing full self drive working without problems sometimes or even most of the time (or as you say, “practically”) will show that Testla has the capability of doing the last 10% (which, remember, is most of the work), whilst them having been stuck at pretty much the current level for years is a good indication that they’re probably stuck down a dead-end that will never lead to something that can achieve the necessary reliability to be certified as an autonomous system.
Also, in my professional opinion as a very senior software engineer, looking from the outside and judging by many software and UI design choices in their vehicles, they’re unlikelly to actually be competent enough to pull it off and seem to be following a Tech Startup model (and I can tell you from experience in that Industry and others, that Startups are usually amateur hour, every hour of the day, every day of the week, every week of the year compared to all of the rest) hence me mentioning above the possibility that they’ve might have “hacked” (i.e. mainly gone at it by trial and error) their way up the first 90%.
