• peto (he/him)@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    If it isn’t on your shelves (or server) it isn’t your library, it’s someone else’s access.

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    9 months ago

    If buying isn’t owning, then pirating isn’t stealing.

    Fair winds and following seas to you fellow sailors, arrrrr

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      From my nixos config.

      Corps are fucked, I’ve got no issues pirating content. If I want to support someone I’ll pay up but the majority of content is background filler for me.

      Why would I want to sub to Amazon just to watch Jeremy Clarkson’s new show, where he was paid $200m to support him? It baffles the mind the volume of cash that’s thrown around in that world.

      I’d much rather spend my money down the pub on a Sunday, which is owned by locals, has local beers on tap with a local solo musician jamming out the front.

      For me, there’s much more value in an experience with the quirks of it being live, a quick witted bartender, a great cover, an old bloke retelling stories he’s told 100 times before, a forgotten lyric or even a snapped string on a guitar.

      Or I’m starting to show my age 😎

    • Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works
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      9 months ago

      I can understand piracy when they take away something you’ve already bought, but I’d not want to do it for something I haven’t bought yet.

      I wanna be able to support people creating what I like.

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        9 months ago

        Though I agree about ‘financial support for content creator’ I think our model of copyright doesn’t work.

        I’d love your opinion

        Should a content creator keep making money forever once something is produced ? Would you prefer to buy rather than pirate a movie that was made 100 years ago ? Let’s say you never bought any Charlie Chaplin movie, would you buy it if you wanted to watch it ?

        The reason I ask is because I’m still unclear myself about what is morally right on this topic. I tend to pirate a lot nowadays because I don’t know how to support content creators without filling the pockets of intermediary leeches

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          My personal rule is that I’ll buy it as long as the original creators are profiting from new sales. So I’m happy to buy Switch games, but I’m probably not going to buy N64 games because they’re not available from the original devs.

          I may buy even if that’s not the case if buying is a better experience than getting it some other way.

          If DRM-free digital copies existed for movies, I’d buy them. But they don’t, so I buy physical media and rip it to my NAS.

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        I actually probably provide more support for the things I like because I pirate. Look at it this way - if I had to subscribe to a million services, I just wouldn’t watch a lot of things (because I don’t like spending money month over month for services). Now, I download what I want to watch, and if it’s good I go and tell my friends and family (who aren’t pirates) how good it is and they go and watch it, bringing more eyeballs to their show/movie than they would’ve had otherwise. Pirating isn’t stealing or taking away from creatives imo

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          I can’t agree, but I can agree to disagree with you.

          For me as long as you’re not paying for some form of art, you’re not supporting the artist, so you’re stealing.

          But I’d be the first one to download a torrent if something I paid for kind of disappeared like this.

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            9 months ago

            Haha agree to disagree. I’m paying them through eXpOsuRe (jk)

            Yeah I don’t feel an ounce of remorse about it, but if I did I probably wouldn’t do it!

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    9 months ago

    The power to destroy a thing is the absolute control over it
    - Paul Muad’Dib

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    9 months ago

    Should companies work on improving access to services and making sure paying consumers get a better experience?

    Nah, let’s spend more money paying lawyers to go after a few people, that’ll show em.

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      This is why I’m actually ok with Hulu. All the Futurama, archer, and Rick and Morty episodes are worth the monthly fee everything else is a bonus. If those disappear I’m ok with cancelling the service.

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    That’s why I’ll keep buying physical for the games or movies I love.

    The only question I have is what’s gonna happen as game discs are just becoming an access token to download the game and its updates.

    I’d have nothing against digital games or movies if you didn’t see such behaviors.

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      Make sure you’ve got a spare DVD/Blu-Ray player somewhere that works without needing an internet connection.

      Oh, you mean when the discs themselves no longer contain the data… Yeah…

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      9 months ago

      Xbox “backwards compatibility” already works that way. It doesn’t run the code from the disc, it downloads a compatible digital version.

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      The only question I have is what’s gonna happen as game discs are just becoming an access token to download the game and its updates.

      That’s a big concern. There’s communities trying to document which games are complete on the media and can be played from start to end without updates (so no major game-breaking bugs or huge performance issues) like this one:

      https://www.doesitplay.org/

      I’m also part of a FB group that collects cartridge information for Switch games, to document if there’s revisions with all updates included.

      https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CEABCBrPv1tWf89hSZqUunK0JW-sQo8XpxuvZhdtHQs/edit#gid=0

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        It’s good that people are worrying about this. Although, I haven’t heard of any disc game not being able to be played. I guess it would only happen if Sony/Microsoft go bankrupt or decide to close PlayStation/Xbox game updates servers.

        It ain’t likely to happen but it’s important to be able to preserve games for the future as they are part of history just like paintings.

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          I haven’t heard of any disc game not being able to be played.

          There’s a number of games that don’t come with the whole thing on disk/cart, usually including only the early stages and the rest needs to be downloaded.

          Hogwarts Legacy and Jedi Survivor are two fairly recent examples.

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            As long as you have a way to download the data that ain’t a problem for me, but if one day Sony or EA closes without giving the update data to be available for everyone that would be a problem.

            Still I don’t see the advantage for them to only put the early stages on the disc. Are they saving money this way?

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              Either saving on media costs (25GB disc instead of 100GB disc, maybe 1 disc instead of 2 if the game is too big), or even having more time to work on the game.

              Developer makes sure the early stages are properly tested, send the disc for manufacturing including only those, use the manufacturing time to tweak/bugfix/optimize more stuff the rest of the game.

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          Tech Tangents did a video on disc games where either the DRM server is down or incompatible with the disk (e.g. the disc games requires an unsupported version of Steam). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZYy9KzFT2w

          It’s about PC games rather than console though, after Microsoft got huge backlash when they proposed online DRM for their discs and Sony said “we work offline!” and the PS4 crushed the XBone, that killed that idea for a couple more years

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    Yeah that’s why I buy DVDs if it’s something that I actually want to keep. I don’t mind streaming as long as you understand that you own nothing.

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      Yup, it’s a great way to fill that “I want to watch something” need.

      I buy and rip DVDs/Blu-rays that I want to keep, and then stream the rips from my NAS. It works pretty well.

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    Yeah, if it’s in “The Cloud” it’s NOT yours and it can disappear or be modified without your knowledge or consent at any time.

    Buy some external storage and keep copies of everything you care about.

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    Is there a good way to pay for a download of movies or TV, or should I go back to buying physical and ripping?

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    Yeah, got rid of all my CDs a few years ago and now I’m buying them back a bit at the time because of all the stuff that is going out of print and you can no longer stream.

    Should have just stored everything.