it’s like violence is the response of an idiot or something
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They are only “supporting terrorist groups” in the eyes of those who are so incredibly racist that they think that all Palestinians, including children, are Hamas and hence all deserve to die.
The only way to bridge the logic chasm between “being against the mass killing of Palestinian children” and “supporting Hamas” is the extreme racist idea that “Palestinian children are Hamas”.
Brah… the protest calls for 2 things.
- BDS
- End of genocide
Neither one is in support of terrorist groups and last I check the ones inciting violence, which is on video for all to witness, was pro-Zionist protestors who came with weapons and attacked the opposition.
Nope. They’re not supporting Hamas, even indirectly because hamas is in control of Palestine. They’re raising awareness to the needless killing of children and other innocents
The Democrats are in the white house. So all Americans are Democrats
Thats actually a really good rebuttal
Self-deception is a process of denying or rationalizing away the relevance, significance, or importance of opposing evidence and logical argument. Self-deception involves convincing oneself of a truth (or lack of truth) so that one does not reveal any self-knowledge of the deception.
Do you condemn genocide?
Do you know the definition of the word genocide?
Yes. Do you condemn genocide?
So you support genocide. Got it, noting your account and disregarding anything you have to say.
Wow, this is more relevant to you than others. Why go in so hard initially with your previous comment if you’re only later going to present a statement like this. I do mean this kindly, let’s try and talk rather than go in aggressively on others who have differing views to you. How on earth can something so nuanced and difficult be reduced to an attacking comment?
You see the difference between “supporting terrorist groups” and not wanting to be complicit in indiscriminate killing of civilians, right?
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Believe it or not I’m against that as well.
Do you condemn genocide?
Oh the irony 😂
Sacramento State’s updated policy states that it “does not have any direct investments in these areas” right now but, in accordance with students’ demands, its investment portfolios will “remain free of such direct investments.”
Students: We’re protesting until our school stops investing in stuff that’s bad!
University: Uh, we already don’t.
Students: We did it! We freed Palestine!
I don’t think the students though that divesting would save all the Palestinians. I mean, I am sure one person did, but that is what happens when you have a large group of people. I think they just wanted to apply pressure against Israel where they could.
I think it is based and probably the most effective thing they could do to stop the genocide.
Divesting is a step, but it just allows them to remove personal responsibility for the death/suffering. (Which matches the latent cultural narcissism)
It does not actually stop anything, it may delay the scheduled future.
Meanwhile bombs and bullets already in production will go down range.
Divesting is a step, but it just allows them to remove personal responsibility for the death/suffering.
Uh, no. Divesting from South Africa had a big effect on the end of Apartheid. It’s just not enough to do much by itself. But it is enough to push it over the top.
Sure, it took years.
The Palestinians have weeks to months.
I mean, you jest, but a lot of the time, all you can do in this world is limit your own contribution to the problem
You attempt a lazy joke here because it seems you need attention, but policy like this matters, especially when things get “quiet” again after the spotlight fades. Also, in addition to divestment, the university also met their demand to appoint “a faculty member from Faculty for Justice in Palestine to sit on the finance committee, ensuring that investments remain ethical every year.”
Attention seeking? It seems like this could have been a single student government vote.
The university’s communications office didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment from Jezebel on whether it is referring explicitly to Israel, or whether it regards Israel’s actions in Gaza as falling under the umbrella of “genocide, ethnic cleansing, and activities that violate fundamental human rights.”
And more effective, too.
Yes, attention seeking - your undereducated pussyfooting is transparent, exhausting and embarrassing, friend.
They did win. They know now that University is morally right and doesn’t support a genocide.
They could have just asked first
Wow, I guess listening to the protesters instead of calling cops on them is crazy 🙄
Yeah that’s… that’s the joke
You know what, honestly, I can’t blame the above commenter. Have you seen some of the trash headlines are made of these days?
Maybe if it were the National Review, Daily Caller, NYPost, or something like that.
It’s Jezebel, which tells us nothing except that I’m surprised they’re still in business.
Definitely in that case, but short of something wackily eye-catching like “infoturkbot” or w/e tf that garbage is, I usually dont notice the name until im already on the page. I’m just sayin, I could easily imagine a few circumstances that would lead to someone not getting the obvious sarcasm in the headline.
I think Jezebel should be included in the “something like that”
Ok listen, I’m all in favor of Israel knocking it the f*ck off and students protesting, but this article is written with a very specific skew.
Last week, Columbia University summoned an army of heavily armed, riot gear-clad police officers to attack its own students for peacefully protesting Israel’s war on Gaza and the university’s financial ties to Israel.
Couple of notes here.
- It has evolved to a non peaceful protest. Some neo-nazi assholes were physically engaging with Jewish students. That’s not cool.
- A good number of nom-students showed up and we’re the ones causing the problems.
- Columbia called the local police to disperse a situation that was getting unsafe fast, because a university isn’t really qualified to do that. Which is the right call IMO. It’s the NYPD that choose riot gear.
Should it have been handled differently? Yes. Was the school dumb? Yes. We really don’t need this slanted BS news to see that.
This is some of the quotes from a Newsweek article:
One video posted on X, formerly Twitter, showed a masked protester outside the university’s gates appearing to chant: “Go back to Poland!”
Another video showed a man telling Jewish students outside the campus gates that “the 7th of October is going to be every day for you.”
Devolved into non peaceful protests?
You got a source there, buddy?
I live nearby, I walked by.
I think (I don’t know for sure) that the students were peaceful, it looks like it got co-opted by a few loud neo-nazis who were being assholes.
My thing is the original article was pretty off.
Then maybe arrest the Nazis instead of beating the actual protesters and shutting down the protest? Interesting that the absolute thinnest veil of an excuse is enough for you to be ok with police brutalizing innocent people who just happen to be exercising their right to protest.
Ok I. The interest of an honest conversation these are my thoughts:
- I haven’t seen any reports of beatings during the arrests. Can you send me something if you saw that? Were there brutalizations taking place? If so, you’re absolutely right.
- I have no problem with the protest, but I do think there is a line between protest and vandalism/rioting. I went to the NYC MeToo marches and a protest in DC against the US in Iraq when I was younger, causing material damage is just not what you do. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/campus-protests-live-updates-students-occupy-columbia-university-rcna149926
- Looking at the pictures of the baracades and furniture, doesn’t Columbia have an obligation to disperse a situation that is becoming dangerous? Isn’t that one of the police’s jobs?
- I haven’t been in a situation like that, but I’m pretty sure the police officer in that situation can’t tell the difference between a Nazi and not a Nazi. And they might not self identify. I’m guessing things are getting heated. I read somewhere (sorry I don’t have a source on this either) that the students were let off with a misdemeanor of trespassing, and the identified external agitators were charged with more. Then the students freely went back to protesting. I’m going to reiterate, b.c. this is the internet, I would be protesting Israel too if I were a bit younger. My issue is with the way the story was reported.
trust me bro
Got it, that’s your source?
<The poster above me may be a government agent>
Yep I’m a government agent part of a 3 letter organization to institute gay space communism in america
Source: trust me bro
You’re the ones turning the frogs gay aren’t you??
So many words for a useless response with no substance or meaningful source
Columbia called the local police to disperse a situation that was getting unsafe fast
Got it, so they called in backup for the neo-nazi assholes.
