Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and other European leaders have applauded the US for passing a vital €89 billion aid bill which has been struggling to make it through the House of Representatives for months.

The House swiftly approved roughly €89 billion in foreign aid for Ukraine, Israel and other US allies in a rare Saturday session as Democrats and Republicans banded together after months of hard-right resistance over renewed American support for repelling Russia’s invasion.

With an overwhelming vote, €57 billion in aid for Ukraine passed in a matter of minutes, a strong showing as American lawmakers race to deliver a fresh round of US support to the war-torn ally. Many Democrats cheered on the House floor and waved blue-and-yellow flags of Ukraine.

  • nahuse@sh.itjust.works
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    8 months ago

    You’re correct about the missteps of US foreign policy.

    But your argument is a nonstarter because the people you’re talking about were literal dictators in authoritarian systems.

    Ukraine is literally fighting to engage with the liberal West, over authoritarian East, against a foreign aggressor. And it’s done a very good job of keeping and even improving its democratic institutions through this war (I’m referring more to transparency of laws and changes to how corruption is dealt with, specifically).

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      8 months ago

      the people you’re talking about were literal dictators in authoritarian systems

      We’re heading dick first into the meat grinder of another Trump administration. And that’s nationally. Nevermind all the tinpot governors we’ve got running around the Gulf Coast and Midwest. What do you think happens when they’re back in charge of the national military again?

      That’s before we get into the finer points of “authoritarianism” when you’re funding a proxy war overseas by rubber stamping a government takeover of a social media company at home.

      Ukraine is literally fighting to engage with the liberal West, over authoritarian East, against a foreign aggressor. And it’s done a very good job of keeping and even improving its democratic institutions through this war

      They’re in a turf war over the Donbas. But the deadline for elections in the Ukraine was constitutionally mandated for March 31st of 2024. We’re three weeks past that with no plans for a vote in sight. I would say Ukraine is officially off the board as a “liberal democracy”, at least as long as martial law lasts. And with the new arms shipment looking to close off the possibility of a ceasefire, that suggests elections are postponed indefinitely.

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        Ah, so you’re just not inclined to see reason, and toss in a little bit of whataboutism with your replies that minimalize a full scale invasion of a sovereign country as a “turf war.”

        It’s my mistake for engaging with an obviously disingenuous poster. You can go fuck yourself.

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          you’re just not inclined to see reason

          If you think its reasonable to amp up the war machine and then hand it over to Cheeto Mussolini, I guess we’re working with different definitions of the phrase.

          You can go fuck yourself.

          My man, try touching some grass. You’re way to invested with this thread.

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            “My man, try touching some grass. You’re way to invested with this thread.”

            Says the “person” with at least 15 replies in this thread… See, I may sound high, but at least I can admit when I’m wrong or crazy… You can’t even see how sad you are anymore.