• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    That’s pure nonsense given that this is not happening in Russia. Maybe stop guzzling propaganda and start engaging with reality.

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        8 months ago

        Comparing convicts to nabbing people off the street exposes your intellectual dishonesty. However, the fact is that Russia isn’t even doing that anymore. They literally have people volunteering. You should follow your own advice and stop projecting. Everything I’ve been saying about this conflict for the past two years is becoming increasingly obviously true. Meanwhile, people who have been peddling western propaganda are looking like clowns at this point. The fact that you lack any capacity for self reflection is just amazing.

        Maybe ask yourself how is it that Russia isn’t collapsing like you were promised, that Russian economy is outperforming the west, that Russian army is becoming stronger than NATO. This all being openly discussed by the same western media that said all those things would happen. Yet, here you are bleating about Russian propaganda.

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          8 months ago

          None of that really matters when Russia is the one that is invading a foreign country and killing its citizens. Funny how all of you keep ignoring that or you just recite the Russian government propaganda.

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            8 months ago

            Russia doesn’t share your assumption that it is a foreign country. That assumption is rather limited to English propaganda, and Russia hasn’t invested much resources in countering institutional propaganda in the English world - they don’t need to fight a pointless war at that front.

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              8 months ago

              I don’t care what Russia thinks. Pretty much the entire world agrees that Ukraine is a foreign country and if it weren’t I wonder why it let Ukraine have its own government and so on.

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            8 months ago

            It matters a whole lot actually because this a proxy war between NATO and Russia. NATO is just as responsible for what’s happening, and in fact we now know that it was the west that intervened to stop negotiations in Istanbul that could’ve stopped the war back in 2022. Bleating about Russian propaganda isn’t going to change the facts of the situation.

            What I recite is what mainstream western media openly says now, and if you claim that’s Russian propaganda then you’re exposing yourself as a troll.

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                8 months ago

                30% population of pre-SMO Ukraine was Russian. And a dicriminated minority. Who invaded whom is a matter of how well versed you are with one side of propaganda and how ignorant of the other.

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                  8 months ago

                  Please provide evidence to the contrary then.

                  It’s extremely easy to find tons of images of russian troops invading Ukraine.

                  I have yet to find any images of Ukraine invading Russia.

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                    8 months ago

                    Russian side of propaganda is not too difficult to find, even in the English world. Why don’t you do a google search by yourself and list 10 results of what you found ?

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                8 months ago

                This is an infantile understanding of the situation. NATO expansion was the cause of the invasion as even Stoltenberg has now admitted publicly.

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                  8 months ago

                  Why did the countries choose to join NATO? Maybe it was because Russia is a threat. A fact that was later proved by the invasion of Ukraine which actually made more countries join NATO.

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                    8 months ago

                    Why did the countries choose to join NATO?
                    Maybe it was because Russia is a threat. A fact that was later proved by the invasion of Ukraine which actually made more countries join NATO.

                    If we are making hypothesis, USA bullying smaller countries into joining its own gang is much more probable. After all, it is not disputed that USA has been bullying everyone into forcing sanctions against Russia and only big countries like India and Germany have been able take a stand against American bullying.

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                    8 months ago

                    Because US has a massive propaganda machine and literally overthrows governments that aren’t compliant. Entire books have been written on this subject, and yet here you are spewing ignorant drivel smugly.