A man stabbed six people to death at a busy Sydney shopping center Saturday before he was fatally shot, police said, with hundreds fleeing the chaotic scene, many weeping as they carried their children. Eight people, including a 9-month-old, were injured.
New South Wales police said they believed a 40-year-old man was responsible for the Saturday afternoon attack at the Westfield Shopping Centre in Bondi Junction, in the city’s eastern suburbs and not far from the world-famous Bondi Beach. They said they were not able to name him until a formal identification had taken place but that they weren’t treating the attack as terrorism-related.
The man was shot dead by a police inspector after he turned and raised a knife, New South Wales Assistant Police Commissioner Anthony Cooke told reporters.
Why? Less people would have probably died. Automatics are stupid hard to shoot accurately. The military uses them for suppression even. They’re not designed to be accurate just to keep the enemy down.
Brainworms. Fuck your freedum bullshit, we don’t want or need your sick gun culture in Australia.
You already have it. You now have more firearms in civilian hands than before the 1996 ban.
As a gun enthusiast, get the fuck away from me.
Did you also serve in the military and know so much more than me about guns. Lol you’re a FUDD if you are a “gun enthusiast”
Playing COD doesn’t count.
If you served it was in the kitchen.
Lol kk kid.
Ps: nice misogynistic joke neck beard.
I never said only women cook in the Army. That was your thought.
Sure thing buddy.
Automatic weapons are used in “spray and pray” situations with large crowds.
The Las Vegas shooter modified his weapons for automatic fire resulting in 60 deaths, 413 wounded, and a total of 867 injuries due to the panic.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_Vegas_shooting
It stands as the deadliest mass shooting in US history. So, yeah, in a crowded situation, automatic weapons are far, far, worse.
60 deaths with 413 wounded and 867 injured due to panic. Look at the dead vs wounded. The crowd was huge and even a semi automatic would have done just as much damage if not more.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/33-dead-130-injured-china-knife-wielding-spree-n41966
From the 32nd floor of a hotel.
Yes bullets don’t stop after 20 feet… what’s your point? The spray into a crowd that size and that packed together, it’s surprising more weren’t killed.
The point is, when your target is a crowd of people, automatic fire is not as ineffective as you make it out to be.
Like at a music festival… or in a mall.
It’s ineffective at killing people, literally the numbers prove this.
Except when used in the largest mass killing im US history.
Again, the ratio of injuries vs deaths is way higher than when someone with a semi automatic has walked around and shot people. I don’t understand why that’s hard to understand.
Hell look at this gang shooting that just happened
https://lemmy.world/post/14304481
1 dead 8 injured in a drive-by. %100 a Glock with a giggle switch used.
This might be the dumbest opinion I’ve ever read on here
Why because you don’t understand how automatic firearms work?
They aren’t the ones that don’t understand.
No they don’t and neither do you kid.
Tell me your only exposure to automatic weapons is Call of Duty without telling me.
Lol ok sure. I own an automatic, it was stupid expensive and is wildly inaccurate. It’s a collection piece and barely gets used because of how silly it is
Tell me again how little I know…you being antigun telling me that I don’t know about firearms is hilarious.
I’m a combat veteran. I’ve used semi/burst/and full weapons in combat.
You’re full of shit.
Sure ya did desk jockey.
Even just using that phrase tells me you were not a grunt.
Never said I was. We really need a /r/justbootthings here on Lemmy. Your military experience doesn’t magically make you an expert. Usually it’s the opposite.
Lmao. Are you really going to argue that combat experience makes you inexperienced in handling weapons?
Oh boy.
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Your inability to use an automatic weapon accurately has no bearing on how many casualties a competent person could inflict with one you muppet.
Yes because we all know that mentally ill people who intend on killing people usually get a gun and train with it. Almost all shootings happen directly after getting the firearm.
The nutter who shot up that LA concert spent a lot of time training, and spent years buying his firearms and ammo.
Australian’s have zero interest in going down the route that America has with school shootings. The stabbing is a tragedy that could have been much worse.
And unlike in the US UNARMED civilians were able to intervene and slow the attacker down.
Fuck you brainwashed cretins who would rather have children dying than give up your precious penis extensions.
Cool, we like our guns, stay over there or w/e you are and let your nanny state tell you that you cannot own paintball or airsoft or gelsoft guns cause they’re dangerous lol
What kind of absolute psycho needs to bring an automatic rifle to the mall? Mass shooters, that’s who.
Your parents failed you.
We don’t have automatic weapons available here. That’s how disconnected you all are from understanding the issues. Just as Republicans here want to ban abortion without knowing anything about women. You want to do the same with firearms without knowing anything about them.
It isn’t required to know every single random trivia fact about guns to know they are designed to kill people. None of us need perfect knowledge before we do anything. Do you have any inkling how crazy the physics/chemistry of fire is? No? Guess you have no opinion on your car catching on fire.
And this is a bullshit comparison with abortion.
No it’s basic knowledge, and it absolutely is akin to the abortion debate. You sound like that dumbass senator who said a woman’s body knows if it was a legit pregnancy or rape and can get rid of it if it’s rape. That’s the level of ignorance the majority of you anti-gun people have.
Please demonstrate your claim that the abortion debate and gun debate are the same.
Nice personal attack btw. Really convinced me.
I literally just did. The mass majority of users here and the mass majority of antigun people do not understand what they want legislated away. The same goes for prolife tools.
Where did I personally attack you?
I can’t even…
Why because you don’t know whats the difference between semi-automatic and automatic?
Automatics are designed to keep enemies suppressed, because of the level of accuracy they have.
What level of accuracy do you need when you’re within a few feet?
Ask the gang bangers in inner cities. Tons of giggle switches out there, but their homicide rate has dropped. Pointing to a lack of accuracy.
Wait, your argument is that these things are so inaccurate that within stabbing distance they still miss their target?
Yup, injuries have climbed but deaths have dropped.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/03/21/chicago-glock-switch-lawsuit/
Even Chicago’s own lawsuit details how inaccurate they are.
So you’re telling me the military uses an AR instead of an LMG for suppressive fire?
What about my full auto Knife? More Dangerous than a Knife or less?
No auto-knife is complete without a Singlcldpy
Oh boy, I might make my first NCD Post out of this Aneurysm of a Post 😂
Go for it, you do know what NCD is right? Most people there are progun… it’s literally pro-military.
Already did, and they find your arguments hilarious because of how absurd they are.
You mean how you think people just die from being shot? And how you die from losing a lung? Lol you’re a perfect example of ignorance.
My wife is a reg-force infanteer. At the kind of distances you’re firing at inside of a shopping mall she could comfortably dump a ten round burst into a person’s torso and not miss a shot. Even an untrained shooter could easily land a lot of lethal hits if they were firing into a crowd. And yes, automatic fire is absolutely used in urban combat; at close ranges it is very easy to control a fully automatic weapon sufficiently for that. The standard strategy is to aim for the navel and let your fire carry up the torso; it’s known as “zippering”. When intentionally controlled by the shooter these weapons do not jump around anything like the way you’ve seen in video games.
Also, generally full auto is not that great for suppressing fire, unless you’re talking about a machine gun. With an assault rifle you’re better off maintaining steady suppression in semi-auto. It’s not so much the volume of fire that keeps a target’s head down as it is the consistency. Dumping a whole mag and then stopping to reload gives them plenty of time to set up and start laying hate on your position. There are exceptions like Aussie Peel Out, but they’re rare. For the part talking guns is the way it’s done.
That’s without even getting into the fact that saying “automatic weapon” doesn’t necessarily mean “fully automatic” (hence why the word “fully” is usually in there; if there wasn’t any ambiguity, why is it necessary to specify?). It’s much more likely that the previous commenter was referring to any form of self-loading weapon.
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