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    8 months ago

    But this is lemmy. Without fear mongering, there would be little content to share here.

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      The “filter all the doom out” option is still dystopian and fucked up. And arguably irresponsible, even.

      The whole house IS ACTUALLY ON FIRE, but your proposed solution is to don earplugs and a blindfold, and inject yourself with a shitload of novocaine and opium, so you can go “this is fine” as you roast.

      Yes, you’ve got every right to do that. Yes, fighting the fire is incredibly difficult (and may be impossible). However, pitching “just ignore the problems” as the sane solution? That’s not actually valid. That’s not actually sane.

      Again: you can do it. I’m not judging you, per se. But sticking your head in the sand is not some kind of big-brain thing, that everyone should be doing, or else they’re a “doomer.”

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        Not OP, but it seems to me the assumption you’re making here is that Ignoring problems = not listening to every problem at every possible moment on every platform. Nah. Fuck that. I don’t come here to become informed on world issues. That’d be fucking stupid. This is a social media website. I come here from a distraction from the work I do.

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        Well thanks for your insight be there is room between staring at the fire in constant angst and sticking one’s head into the sand. I keep informed regularly albeit briefly and through non sensational media. I also keep well informed adout the climate crisis and possible solutions through various science podcasts. Staying sane allows be to make decisions that improve my daily life while helping a bit: walking to work, taking the train, buying local…

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          This is an extremely reasonable clarification. I am sorry if I misconstrued your original comment, which it really looks like I did. You’re managing your own experience of the current media climate, in order to stay rationally informed, without bombarding your consciousness with too much reality, all at once. That’s more than fair.

          My position = we all bear a responsibility to soberly and rationally grasp as much of our horrible reality as we can, so that we can exercise whatever power we have, to help the world suck less.

          Sadly, I do see people out there, who go whole hog, advocating the “stick your head in the sand” mentality. I get the awful feeling that some of these people would read Fahrenheit 451 and go “this Montag guy is a real Doomer. His wife and her friends have the right attitude. Why pay attention to all this gloomy stuff, man? Just go with the flow.”

          To put it in modern terms, the whole point of the novel is that Montag becomes “woke.” He starts out as a complacent, vapid, uncaring person, but becomes more and more aware of the true reality of his surroundings. The salient point being: that transformation sure as hell doesn’t make him HAPPIER, but it does make him more responsible and ethical, in his behavior.

          Being a fictional protagonist, Guy Montag responds in a way that entirely disrupts his life. I’m not asking that anyone sacrifice their way of life. Like you, I’m saying there’s a definite balance point between willfully ignoring reality and becoming too addicted to angst, and we should ideally reach for that balance.

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        And you think that going insane in replies here is helping in any way? You live in an illusion too, but yours is even worse because you bother other people with your mental troubles.

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          you bother other people with your mental troubles

          See, this is the problem: what exactly do you think constitutes my mental troubles? Which parts of the burning house do you deny?

          Are you a climate-change denier? Do you think the rise of neo-fascism is overblown? Do you prefer not to admit that the housing and wage-stagnation crises exist?

          In your world, is everything just hunky-dory, A-OK, perfectly fine? And I’m an actual psychotic for believing in any of these problems? Do you think they’re all media lies?

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            You’re psychotic because you’re overdosed on information. You can’t stop talking about these issue, bothering everyone around. Your internet activism is useless and pointless, you achieve nothing.

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              So I can assume you’re a climate-change-denying, MAGA-hat-wearing, anarcho-capitalist flat-earther, then?

              I mean, you didn’t clarify any of the things I asked about. Feel free to correct me, but I can only assume based on your silence.

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                You see, you can’t have a conversation without bringing in MAGA, flat earthers, capitalism, and everything else. That answers you question:

                See, this is the problem: what exactly do you think constitutes my mental troubles?

                And you wish everyone to be like you? That’s what you call being responsible?

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    Man, my 80 year-old parents, whose only income comes from DoorDash had their car die this week, on top of their furnace and A/C going out.

    And we live in the US, where no one gives a fuck about the elderly.

    So, respectfully, I’m not feeling particularly optimistic. The thousands I’m going to have to spend to keep them alive is going to add years of work before I can retire, and that’s just the reality of living in this shitty, goddamn capitalist hellhole.

    At least like four people will get to be even more disgustingly rich, though. Yay. Vote Biden and Trump, friends.

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      I think the point is not “don’t care about bad things happening in your life,” it’s, rather, “don’t get so upset about the bad things happening everywhere else first thing in the morning.”

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      And we live in the US, where no one gives a fuck about the elderly.

      36 cents of every U.S. tax dollar goes to social security and medicare. The elderly being the primary beneficiaries of these social programs. That’s before we start talking about senior discounts, rent controlled age restricted communities, and a long list of other state, county and city programs designed to benefit the elderly.

      I’m sorry to hear about your parents struggling. But stating pure lies is unacceptable.

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        I’m sorry to hear about your parents struggling. But stating pure lies is unacceptable.

        I can hear your empathy dripping off the screen. Thank you so much.

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          I accept that your parents are struggling, I accept that you are hurting because of this. I whole heartedly accept the reality you’re living in and empathize and sympathize with it. If that’s what you need right now focus on that.