• Son_of_dad@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    The point is that this is not going to stop with someone backing up their games. Come on now let’s be honest. The internet is full of game ROMS that are “for backup only” again, come the fuck on. I’m not against pirating, but to say this isn’t it is just silly lol

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      11 months ago

      Then it should be Nintendo’s problem to come up with a business model that doesn’t infringe upon their customers’ property rights, not society’s problem to give up everybody’s rights just to enable Nintendo’s DRM-based business model!

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      11 months ago

      Then you punish the actual criminals, not everyone.

      There are plenty of us who prefer the steam deck over the switch. You can pull the encryption keys from your own console and the roms from your own games and play them there. There are numerous tutorials to do so.

      People use knives to stab people. Should we ban all knives?

      You’re being hyperbolic and narrow-minded.

      Backing up a game is legal. End of story. There’s plenty of legal precedent there already. So you’re literally arguing that the law is not the law because of your emotional feelings.

      You want to change that? Change the law. Stop being a jackass on social here tho spouting bad takes when you just don’t agree.

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        11 months ago

        People use knives to stab people. Should we ban all knives?

        Actually in plenty countries, plenty types of knives are not legal to carry because their primary purpose (of the type) is in attacking people, which is never a valid reason to have it as a result.

        Much like how with the US exception, most industrialized nations don’t allow free ownership of most guns.

        So if anything, that’s a bad argument to make as there’s a lot of precedent suggesting banning such dumping devices entirely might be warranted. I wouldn’t support that, but the argument you try to use as a defense exactly supports a ban.
        Mind you, the ban would be on buying/owning/importing such a device, not in the actual dumping. As in, you are legally allowed to dump your games, only you cannot acquire the device to do so as it has been shown to be primarily meant to be used for illegal purposes (usually this would mean there are privosion so that for scientific/research purposes you can acquire them).

        An example would be the R4 import/purchase ban in a few countries.

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          11 months ago

          So, only knives that have no legitimate purpose other than to cause harm are banned? A switch blade is banned while a filet knife is not. Both knives are equally capable of being tools for murder, but the filet knife can be used in hunting, fishing, and cooking. All legitimate uses. While the switchblade isn’t really feasible in any scenario outside of a fight.

          It’s not the presence of illegitimate uses that gives rise to the ban. It’s the absence of legitimate uses.

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      11 months ago

      Saying theres no legit way to use these is exactly why yuzu was so easily taken down, so even if youre pro or anti piracy, spreading false information about this is harmful to the hacking community.

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        11 months ago

        Yuzu was taken down because lawyers and people who follow the letter of the law said it was illegal. Which it was. You think it happened cause of a random internet opinion?

        Anyways this is the funniest thread on Lemmy. A bunch of fellow pirates doing pirate shit and pretending like they’re doing altruism lol

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          11 months ago

          Yes what lawyers are known for, following the letter of the law.

          But wait! Dont lawyers occasionally fight on which side of the law is correct?? What could be true then??