The person you are talking to isn’t an anti-vaxxer though. They are pointing out that vaccine mandates are questionable at best in terms of ethics. The campaign to push vaccines was also fraught with issues that helped create more antivaxxers.
Questionable ethics? Not for collectivists. My personal freedoms do not trump the well-being of the rest of society, and it’s perfectly reasonable to have rules about health and hygiene to protect the whole.
I’m sure familiar with this type of concern troll. They are in the first stage of their descent. Possibly the second stage, based on the loaded language they are using.
I have personally lost several family members to this exact “reasoning” so I know precisely what it looks like a few months later.
Concern troll? Are you calling me or them a concern troll? I don’t think pointing out how badly run campaigns and regressive legislation lead to reduced vaccine uptake is concern trolling. Concern trolling would be pretending they were concerned for your mental or physical health as a way to make your opinion seem invalid.
The person you are talking to isn’t an anti-vaxxer though. They are pointing out that vaccine mandates are questionable at best in terms of ethics. The campaign to push vaccines was also fraught with issues that helped create more antivaxxers.
Questionable ethics? Not for collectivists. My personal freedoms do not trump the well-being of the rest of society, and it’s perfectly reasonable to have rules about health and hygiene to protect the whole.
You seem to have forgotten about informed consent.
I just don’t give a shit about it compared to the cost of letting people do whatever they want.
I don’t know if I support collectivism. I definitely don’t support current society.
We have had vaccine mandates for decades in order to do things like have kids attend school.
I’m sure familiar with this type of concern troll. They are in the first stage of their descent. Possibly the second stage, based on the loaded language they are using.
I have personally lost several family members to this exact “reasoning” so I know precisely what it looks like a few months later.
Concern troll? Are you calling me or them a concern troll? I don’t think pointing out how badly run campaigns and regressive legislation lead to reduced vaccine uptake is concern trolling. Concern trolling would be pretending they were concerned for your mental or physical health as a way to make your opinion seem invalid.