Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) pressured Republicans to name the specific crime they are accusing President Biden of as they proceed with their impeachment inquiry.

Ocasio-Cortez noted the recent arrest of a former FBI informant for lying to the agency, fabricating the claim that Biden accepted a bribe while vice president to take actions to benefit the Ukrainian energy company his son served on the board of.

“At this point, the story isn’t the fact that the basis of this impeachment inquiry is wrong. The story is, ‘Why it is proceeding anyway?’” she asked, saying Republicans have “no charges.”

“I have yet to hear in the chairman’s opening the allegation that they are specifically charging the president of the United States with. I am hearing about the ‘Biden family.’ I am hearing about this and that. I am not hearing the specific allegation by this committee. What is it? It is not here. And that is the problem,” she said.

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    Glad she calling them out. To bad she talking to a brick wall they don’t care about charges they just want a distraction from all the bullshit they are doing.

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      I don’t think she’s really talking to them or expecting them to suddenly admit what they are doing and change their actions. I feel like she’s moreso talking to the American people. I know personally it at least gives me a modicum of hope to see that there are still people who will stand up for what’s right and call them out on the floor of Congress. It’s certainly better than living in a world where no one challenges them anyway.

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          I agree that those people need to understand her point the most and that they likely won’t even if they did hear it unedited but even the people who are already on her side like myself still need to hear it. Not because we don’t already understand what she’s saying but because it shows that we haven’t given up yet.

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    Yes, Democrats allow way too much Republican nonsense to happen without challenging it. Maybe they assume citizens will realize how asinine it is but that isn’t working.

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      Calling them out also will not work. Modern republicanism hinges on Democrats being the enemy. It is a belief that lacks any specific evidence, but the idea has been repeated so many times through accusations with no evidence, predictions that never come to fruition, and outright lies that never get corrected that from the perspective of a Republican, even if some single allegation is proven false, they are hearing so many bad things about their countrymen that some of it has to be true.

      The Russians perfected this type of propaganda and it is based on a couple quirks in how our brains work. First, even a wacky lie pushes your beliefs in the direction of the lie. Second, if a lie is repeated it is more likely to be believed. Wrap this up in a major media ecosystem that says over and over “You can’t trust other sources of information. Here are 10 reasons Democrats are pedophiles” and you have armed people storming into pizza shops searching for children locked in a basement that doesn’t exist.

      The final quirk of our brains that sort of seals the deal is that direct contradictory evidence to a belief does not weaken the belief, it makes it stronger. The believer rationalizes a defense of the belief in light of the contradictory evidence. Changing someone’s beliefs requires an effort akin to cult deprogramming.

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        They should still fight against it. They just roll over whenever Republicans lie about vaccines, borders, transgender people, Ukraine, Israel. When there’s not even a dissenting “opinion” from our president it’s really easy to tell why only Republican trash is heard

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          The dissenting opinion is unlikely to be heard. Here is another brain quirk for you: we hate seeing information that contradicts our beliefs. The attention-optimized algorithms of social media have made it possible to spend a whole day consuming information without seeing anything we disagree with. Traditional journalism is no longer the source of shared truth for our society, we have surrendered that to the algorithms with the net effect of fracturing society into groups with very different ideas of what the truth is.

          IMO the recent rise of far-right political power can be directly attributed to the “post-truth” bubbles we have found ourselves in. I know I have overused the brain quirk gimmick, but these bubbles are creating a huge amount of fear and uncertainty. This over-stimulation of our amygdala reduces empathy and causes us to further constrict our in-groups. This makes it easier for power hungry politicians to push out-groups into “enemy” territory and leverage the fear of the enemy into raw political power.

          I do acknowledge the irony, as I type this message, that I will be heard only by people that share my values. My hope is that you the reader see that empathy is the cure, and choose not to close off your in-group despite the feeds and the mod bans and the powerful men profiting from this mess.

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            I basically only have empathy left. I’m just trying to think of a way to help people I know that isn’t “stop watching propaganda.” Like I can’t think of something to convince my mother in law that the earth is more than 6000 years old because she thinks the English translation of the Bible is the greatest evidence of anything so y’know. It’s those lies that people so easily believe that if just explain where the lie came from it’s easy. But the bible is kinda a paradox in that, and I’m not risking that conversation because I don’t have money for my own place yet

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      Every lie Republicans tell is repeated forever by Fox News and other right-wing outlets. Challenging them doesn’t undo the damage, but it does stifle them from making more talking points.

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      I dont think it matters what Dems do in response to Republican antics like this. All any Republican is looking for is a quick 10 sec clip they can play on loop that makes them look good or Dems look bad. Media has become so fragmented that people disagree on basic facts. It wouldnt matter what a Dem said or did, it will never pierce the right wing media bubble.

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        What they can do is cut off all oxygen. No one action is going to fix it, but they need to be deplatformed starting at the top and working downward, cut off funding anywhere possible: fix citizens united, don’t debate them without having control of the microphone, etc

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      Republicans have to be continually humiliated in front of the nation. That is the only thing that will work, and that is all that they will listen to (other than outright brutality). Utter and complete humiliation every day.

      Dems as a party won’t do it because they a) fear losing imaginary “centrist” voters, and b) don’t actually want to be in power anyway, since they can fundraise more when they are in the opposition.

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      Yes. The whole thing is a sham, deliberately. They’re trying tomqake an impeachment seem ridiculous and frivolous, to make the impeachment against Trump seem like a non-issue.

      Remember, these are modern-day politicians. They’re no longer interested in the truth. Only optics.

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        Plus impeachment crimes only occur when in office. Even if something shady happened before 2020 it will have to wait until Biden leaves office

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      Too embarrassing :

      Getting the economy back up, looking good

      Silently working for the country, looking old but okay.

      Recently (this might be added to the crimes) looking better than trump, slashing trump, and more.

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    What? Look lady, we’re in the middle of a very seereeus trial here. Why would we need a specific thing to accuse them of?? Dang libruls.

    Okay Charlie back to you, as you were saying. Something about the danged libruls I think.

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    If the GOP truly wanted to big dick this, they’d pin Biden’s ears for supporting Israel’s genocide in violation of a litany of UN treaties.

    But it can’t be for anything real. It’s always gotta be “Joe Biden snorted coke off his son’s illegal immigrant during a trans pedophile abortion that raises your taxes.”

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        But he can be held responsible for the US’s actions.

        The extant to which treaties carry weight under US law is untested. Congress tried going to court over this in Goldwater v Carter over Carter’s withdrawal from the Sino-American mutual defense treaty. However, the Supreme Court dismissed the case as “unfit for judicial review”.

        Biden is also arguably violating the Foreign Assistance Act, which provides that:

        Except under circumstances specified in this section, no security assistance may be provided to any country the government of which engages in a consistent pattern of gross violations of internationally recognized human rights.

        However, the Senate voted 72-11 against attempying to enforce the relevent provisions in this case.

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        The US has supplied Israel long before Biden and will do so longer after.

        But also during. Which makes it Biden’s responsibility

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    Everyone in these videos are the fucking worst. ALWAYS talking over each other, avoiding questions, deflecting answers. Just the fucking worst. What they should do is have the microphones only on for a specific allotted time, and when one is on, not a single other one can be on at the same time.

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    I wish we could roll up the executive branch with an unspecified RICO charge. We’ll hit the entire US government with it. Unfortunately testifying as such to a committee just makes you deranged.