He’s already selling to both sides with Starlink. Who is to say Musk won’t be doing the same with this? He’s really playing up the Bond Villain stereotype.
I’m getting Deus Ex vibes
A lot wrong here, I’m sorry to say, and I’m really not a fan of Musk. He is absolutely not selling Starlink to be used by Russia. That would be shut down real quick. (They may be using black-market terminals, but that’s a different question.) And this new constellation will, as I understand it, be owned and operated by the US govt. Think like every single spy satellite ever: govt finds a contractor and asks them to do a thing.
Oh, right. They couldnt possibly make another and sell that to someone else, oh wait…
You’re (probably knowingly) spreading disinformation if you’re implying SpaceX is selling Starlink terminals to Russia. You have no moral standing to criticize them if you yourself are spreading lies.
It’s not disinformation at all. Russians are using Starlink on the battlefield. SpaceX knew, and didn’t report it. Russians continue to use it without any remediation from SpaceX yet. That sure as shit meets the bare minimum in my book as complicity.
Why are you on here being a fence or fact checker for Russia and SpaceX anyway? Fuck Russia, and Fuck Elon Musk.
The accusation being made here is not about Russia using Starlink but about SpaceX selling them to both sides for which I haven’t seen any evidence for. You can not like Musk all you want but making statements like that as if it’s an established fact is dishonest. It implies malice when the most likely explanation is that these terminals simply just were obtained via 3rd parties. Starlink doesn’t work in Russia or in the occupied territories but it does work near the front lines because Ukraine is using them there so if Russians are able to obtain an active terminal somehow then there’s a good chance it will work.
You also seem to be implying that SpaceX isn’t doing anything about it. What are you basing this on? How could you know? They’ve said that they’re going to disable all terminals found out to be used by sanctioned parties and I don’t see any reason to assume they’re not doing this. For all we know they could have disabled hundreds if not thousands terminals by now. Ofcourse if you have evidence to the contrary then I’m interested in seeing it.
Why are you on here being a fence or fact checker for Russia and SpaceX anyway?
Because I have no dog in the fight and I only care about the truth. I have zero interest in the anti-Elon circlejerk - I’m just trying to figure out what’s actually going on.
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Seems like after his satellite shenanigans in Ukraine, the US would be more… cautious.
This. Musk disabled Starlink to fark over the Ukrainians. He should not be trusted with any military contracts. Ever.
Having mega corporations design space networks for you sounds like a great idea until they decide to lock you out and hold your government hostage. Or sell intel… Or sell access to other actors….
Just admit it—the corporations run the world at this point.
straight up supervillain shit, as always
" . . . for U.S. intelligence."
Yeah. Sure. Right. Musk will sell Intelligence to ANYONE who pays for it and US taxpayers will foot the entire bill for constructing the satellite network.
And then all the contractors and politicians will all pretend to be surprised by this and Musk will get the finger-wagging of a lifetime.
Just spitballing here, but it will get hacked and cause a major problem, if not a crisis.
There are numerous spy satellites up there already from many nations, any of them being hacked would be just as bad.
The DoD is going to be involved in how they are secured.
They’ll probably all drop out of orbit before that happens though. I give it a week from launch.
The more ridiculous, the more plausible, because it has happened. 😂
Sounds like this is a tack on to starlink. Could make sense to put low quality cameras on starlink to prevent a-sat shoot downs since there are so many starlink sats. You’d need to do a complete Kessler syndrome leo denial to economically knock them all out.
