• Ender of Games@sh.itjust.works
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    The Fahrenheit scale was built around human biology.

    Nope, it was built around the highest and lowest extremes some dude could create in his room. Not based on human biology in the slightest. Don’t repeat this false information.

    0C isn’t even that cold, and 100C is literally instant death.

    Yeah, but counter argument, who gives a shit? The “meme” doesn’t say anything remotely close to “from 0 to 100”. I don’t know why you are under the impression that these scales become inaccurate if you leave the 0-100 range. I live in a region that frequents -40C to +40C over a year- that’s centered on zero, so it’s already better for “how humans feel” than being centered on 32 and pretending there is some cosmic/celestial/god ordained reason for it.

    Kelvin is the most scientifically objective scale, but also the least intuitive for humans…

    Still no one giving a shit- the “meme” doesn’t remotely even suggest anything related to this.

    Be forewarned that I am willing to die on this hill

    I don’t know why you sign this off with “I’m an obnoxious twat”, but I’m perfectly happy with using the block function if the threat is real.

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      A) Fahrenheit has an appropriate level of granularity for humans

      B) Fahrenheit has an intuitive frame of reference for humans

      Celsius and Kelvin do not.

      I don’t want to fight about this I just think it’s actually true, and I also think Europeans get insanely defensive about stuff like this for no reason.

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        A) Fahrenheit has an appropriate level of granularity for humans

        B) Fahrenheit has an intuitive frame of reference for humans

        true.

        Celsius […] do not.

        false.

        Europeans get insanely defensive about stuff like this for no reason.

        Be forewarned that I am willing to die on this hill, and any challenges to my position will result in increasingly large walls of text until you have conceded the point 😤

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          Thoughts?

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          Generally -40 to 40 are the extremes of livable areas.

          Sure, water is a really good system and it works well.

          And for F that range is -40 to 104. See how you get 64 extra degrees of precision and nearly all of them are double digit numbers? No downside.

          Furthermore F can use its base 10 system to describe useful ranges of temperature such as the 20s, 60s, etc. So you have 144 degrees instead of just 80, and you also have the option to utilize a more broad 16 degree scale that’s also built in.

          You might say that Celsius technically also has an 8 degree scale(10s, 30s), but I would argue that the range of 10 degrees Celsius is too broad to be useful in the same way. In order to scale such that 0C is water freezing and 100C boiling, it was necessary for the units to become larger and thus the 10C shorthand is much less descriptive than the 10F shorthand, at least for most human purposes.

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            copy pasting now are we? here was my response to the same copied comment:

            but I would argue that the range of 10 degrees Celsius is too broad to be useful in the same way.

            As you might imagine I completely disagree.

            For my purposes 20’s, 30’s, negative 10’s and so on is perfectly good, and I would describe my purposes as human.

            Again, this is based on your, and my, learned reference points. Of course you feel the scale of the farenheit is better suited for describing your life, those are your learned reference points.

            I have my own learned reference points based on the Celsius scale I grew up with and, suprise suprise, to me they’re superior.

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              copy pasting now are we?

              You replied to me on multiple different threads, so I didn’t realize you were the same person. Generally if you’re serious about a debate, it’s best to keep things to one comment chain. Otherwise you’re just kinda yelling at somebody.

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        Unlike Americans, celsius and kelvin users are not afraid of decimals, which fullfills all your graularity needs if you have them. But mostly it isn’t even needed because you literally cannot feel the difference.