The investigation is tied to an incident on an Alaska Airlines flight in early January. Boeing also told a Senate panel that it cannot find a record of the work done on the Alaska plane.

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      How else will their stock price go up amidst all this controversy lol.

      Accountability should be held at the top. If they can benefit from cost cutting that can potentially kill people through negligence, they need to face criminal consequences for doing so.

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        Not potentially.

        MCAS did kill several hundred people just a few years ago.

        A system Boeing put in place and snuck past regulators specifically to deploy a cheaply developed product that could compete with airbus.

        The executives at Boeing already have blood on their hands. They should have faced manslaughter charges for the 2 flights that went down due to MCAS.

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    Sadly nothing Boeing has done is criminal in the US even though it absolutely should be. It’s just the bog standard corporate pursuit of profit at the expense of all else. Cutting corners, ignoring safety, rushing everything, and all with fewer people to do the work than are necessary. If Boeing is found criminally guilty for that half the corporations in the US are in trouble.

    No, this is just political theater, much like the TSA is. Boeing has fucked up enough that people are starting to take notice, so this is just a little reminder to them that they need to stop fucking up quite so publicly. The executives will sweat a little, temporarily improve things, and then go right back to their usual bullshit in a year or two when things calm down. Worst case scenario they’ll put out a series of BP style “We’re sorry” videos where they emphasize how much quality and safety supposedly mean to them.

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      Sadly nothing Boeing has done is criminal in the US even though it absolutely should be.

      I doubt that you know whether Boeing has or has not broken any laws.

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        OK, well nothing there’s anything public about anyway. It’s always possible they’ve been embezzling or I don’t know, running a drug smuggling ring out of their warehouses, but nothing they’ve probably done is illegal. Remember this is all just a response to the multiple accidents related to manufacturing defects in their planes. At this moment the worst charge they’re looking at is maybe criminal negligence.

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          Cover up is where I’d put money. Supplying a federal agency with falsified documents or otherwise lying would start getting into criminal territory. Though I agree that we, the public, have no evidence of that.

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      An enterprising DA should charge a corporation with murder under the personhood standard established by citizens united and go for the death penalty . Revoke their ability to exist in the state.

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      If someone bought off that the bolts were reinstalled they can get in trouble for falsifying inspection records.

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    Somehow I doubt American Ju$tice will jail the executive who went laughing all the way to bank with the bonuses they made from cutting corners in design, manufacturing and QA, cutting costs down to the bone and using Boeing employees acting as in-house FAA “representatives” to self-certify the pieces of junk Boeing now makes.

    (As somebody else pointed out, the deaths attributable to such practices, namelly in the MCAS debacle, should’ve been treated as manslaughter).

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      Its a functional state-financed monopoly that isn’t owned or operated by the state and gets to charge taxpayers an absurd markup per unit by passing every expenditure through half a dozen shell companies that each get to squeeze out profit on the margins.

      But hey, we get the latest in aviation technology, right? Not like they’re just churning out lemons that fall apart in midair.

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      Not even. They knew MCAS was unrecoverable. Their test pilots told them this and the government has the documents. They released it anyway and lied about it. That’s not, “oops”, that’s malice and forethought.

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    I’m making four flights soon with the Boeing 737 Max 8. I’m sure the software is probably all updated and debugged properly.

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      Boeing assures you everything is properly debugged. Only known issues is that the engines could explode if the anti-icing is accidentally turned on, but the pilots have got a foolproof plan to avoid killing everyone with the flip of a switch:

      Post-it note in cockpit saying "ENGINE Anti-Ice 5 mins"

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      The likelihood that there will be anything wrong with your flights is minuscule. A hundred thousand planes fly around the Earth every single day and they almost never have any issues.

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        Of course. These are all routine <2 hr flights as well, without exposure to any particular weather extremes. They stay airborne well enough, under normal conditions. It’s when there’s a quirky mishap things can quickly escalate beyond control, and take a “dive” for the worse as it were…

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    Rosie the riveter is getting old and can’t keep up with the assembly speed…

    2 years jail for Rocie for riveting slowly

    2 weeks community service for the CEO who required managers to push Rocie faster

    I’m a manager, so I’m pretty sure we’re blameless lol.

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      Nah, the door blowing off the airplane was world news. The 2 Boeing crashes a handful of years ago were world news. It’s a massive American company. The writing has been on the wall for a while.

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        It is a long going story, but this extra concern happens right after their report and their reports get a lot of views.

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      I suspect the explosive decompression caused by one of the doors flying off a plane mid-air might have been more directly responsible than the rapidly downsizing streaming service comedy show that decided to make a few jokes about it.

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    The only reason they’re pretending to give a shit is because the stock prices are dropping. The whole time I guess we’ll just ignore the whistleblower that just got “Epsteined” right in the middle of depositions about these self same quality issues. Maybe they’ll even try to blame the dead guy since he was a quality manager, can’t get any more convenient than that.