• CouncilOfFriends@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Airdropping aid to get around a blockade imposed by the Israel…who depends on our military aid to genocide the Palestinians. This is the height of absurdity

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    10 months ago

    See that carrier in the Mediterranean? Park that bitch right off the coast of Gaza and start shipping food and aid straight in, what the fuck is Israel going to do about it

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      10 months ago

      Bring in some USMC LCACs drive it right on up the beach.

      And fucking dare Israel to.

      • Squizzy@lemmy.world
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        10 months ago

        Dare them to do what, the US supports them. The US isn’t staring anyone down here, they’re watching a genocide and selling the gas for the chambers.

        Absolute fantasy that they’re some saviours here, they enabled this and are getting enough push back to make the barest effort to appease critic in an election year.

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          10 months ago

          That would change overnight if we had personel getting pasted by IDF while dropping off supplies.

          One of the big differences between now and USS Liberty is by how much coverage these things get. It would be hard to keep it out of the media.

          Besides which, LCACs have been used before in exactly this role. (They’re hovercraft designed to drop off tanks in a beach. IIRC, they were used in Africa?)

    • Nudding@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      It makes sense to play both sides of the field. That way, you always come out on top. Supply the weapons to mangle brown children, then send them the aid they need afterward, GeNiUs.

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      10 months ago

      Just to put into perspective it’s something like 2 trucks worth at this point for 2 million people. This is a drop in the ocean. We should be sending 2 trucks a minute.

  • Aceticon@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Will Biden have American bombs delivered together with the food or will they as usual use Israel to deliver them separatelly?!

  • من البحر إلى النهر@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    It would be simpler to demand that the Israelis end the blockade, maybe condition the bombs they drop on Palestinians with letting aid trucks in. Have your cake and eat it too. Still more humane than this.

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      9 months ago

      Sorry, but that’s too simplistic. Israel’s support is too engrained in the politics of the US and other countries, and they could easily throw monkey wrenches in all directions. It makes the situation worse, not better. Netanyahu has to removed, but as it is now he has to be worked through, and that’s what’s slowing everything down.

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          9 months ago

          That’s not what I’m saying - Arabic nations still need to attend to their own home-grown evils before they can attempt to label other empires as such. You seem set on a particular mindset, and I’m not going to waste any more time with people twisting my words for their own agenda.

  • SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee
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    10 months ago

    My brain is finally starting to fully develop at 32…I don’t understand this shit. What’s the point? Genuinely I want a reason for both sides in the matter. What’s the single sentence argument for both sides. No inflamitory talking points.

    • Maggoty@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      Without going too far into history, one side is tired of living in an open air prison and the other side is tired of terrorist attacks. It’s a self reinforcing conflict because neither side can win. Israel can’t bomb an idea and Hamas can’t terrorize an F-35 joint strike fighter.

      • SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee
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        10 months ago

        Thank you for the response without chastising. My assertions were correct that Israel are essentially recreating operation Iraqi freedom with carte blanche? I get that it’s not your responsibility to educate me in this matter. I just have no clue what the fuck to believe based on vague internet opinions.

        • I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
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          10 months ago

          Iraqi freedom was a response to a single terrorist attack. Israel’s response is to decades of continuous attacks. While October was particularly bad, Hamas has been firing rockets and missiles indiscriminately into Israel on like a weekly basis for many years now. Israel has been able to protect themselves from this thanks to their Iron Dome defense system, but that doesn’t change the fact that they are shooting down rockets launched with the intent to kill their civilians.

          On the flip side, Israel has been treating the Palestinians particularly badly. They severely restrict trade into and out of the area, restrict the travel of Palestinian civilians, and have been slowly stealing more and more territory from them by literally driving people from their homes, sometimes just straight up killing them. While claims of an “open air prison” are a bit hyperbolic, it’s not off by much.

          Add to that a healthy dose of racism on both sides against the other and you are left with a massive mess that few people understand. There is plenty to hate on both sides because both sides have done, and continue to do, incredibly shitty things to each other. Neither Israel nor Hamas is right, and neither of them give a shit about the Palestinian civilians. Another issue is that the average civilian on both sides isn’t exactly dreaming of peace. Due to how long this has been going on for, if you took a random Israeli and a random Palestinian, odds are they would want to kill each other.

          If this all seems exhausting and complicated and you aren’t sure what side is ‘right’, know that’s ok. Our minds are not made to be so globally connected, and while this conflict may be getting a lot of media attention, it’s hardly the worst conflict that’s occurred in living memory, and arguably not even the worst currently going on. It’s also likely also far removed from you. If you’re from the States, it’s literally on the other side of the world. Just know, there’s a shit ton of propaganda that really, REALLY wants you to pick a side and will paint the other as demons, when in reality both sides are pretty shitty.

          • SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee
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            9 months ago

            I know this is a week old, but I really appreciate this reply. This was eye opening on a few levels. You took a great deal of time to illustrate what’s going on. Thank you.

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          10 months ago

          They are recreating Nazi Germany and Fall Weiss. They want to take over the entirety of Palestine to genocide the people within. They are talking about relocations, they are targetting civillians on purpose.

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    10 months ago

    So basically, it’ll light up targets for the IAF to drop their US made guided munitions on.

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    10 months ago

    If Biden can’t even force aid through Egypt’s border I can’t imagine Trump being any more of a lap dog for israel.

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      10 months ago

      Nobody can force aid through Israel’s blockade. a) that’s why it’s a blockade, b) that’s why there are airdrops.

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        10 months ago

        Removed, rule 5

        “Rule 5: Keep it civil. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (perjorative, perjorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (perjorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect!”

    • Wermhatswormhat@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      There are zero reasons why Hamas would prevent food and aid being delivered to the people they are fighting for. Might want to lighten up on the amount of BS propaganda you’re consuming.

    • ARk@lemm.ee
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      10 months ago

      ? why would they shoot down aid going into gaza

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        Northern Gaza is hard to reach. In recent weeks there was talk about dropping food aid. Then Hamas took pictures of themselves with their anti aircraft man pads and missles. That made private air drops impossible, as civilian flyers don’t even have counter measures for that. King Abdullah of Jordan and world kitchen then gave it a shot, and there was no AA. Now the US Airforce will give it a try. They have to fly low on these drops, so look out below.

        Now you can downvote this truth I don’t really care. Says more about you than me.

    • Aceticon@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      Preemptivelly setting up the excuse for when Israel shoots down the planes, I see…

    • endhits@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      Hamas’ rockets are glorified fireworks. They have no targeting system to hit moving aircraft, all of the calculations are done by hand.