It’s like every time there’s a war everybody forgets how fucking long they take. WW2 took six years. The Vietnam War took almost 20 years, same with the Afghanistan War. Anybody expecting anything solid within the next couple years is delusional. Ukraine is in it for the long haul.
That’s not strictly true. On the short end, there was the six-day war. On the long end, there was the hundred years’ war.
Putin was clearly aiming for the short option, but then I suppose most belligerents usually are.
I’d actually love to see a graph that shows the distribution of lengths of various wars
Dude took the low end and said “fuck that we’ll do it twice as fast.”
The good news is I don’t think Russia can continue to sustain these kind of losses for 199 more years.
Neither can Ukraine…
And Russia expected their little venture to be done in days.
It was never supposed to turn into a real war. They wanted to assassinate Zelenskyy put some Russian plant in as president, annex some more land and call it a night. Obviously Zelenskyy survived and the rest is history.
“No plan survives first contact with the enemy”
“Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth."
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Frontlines were actually moving, especially in the Eastern Front. Not so much in China and the Pacific, though.
That’s because it isn’t really about any particular military objective, it’s about creating business for the war industry.
“We’ll fight til the last Ukrainian!” - libs
Haters gonna hate. Still though, they’ll need to be cordial if some of these critics are also paying Ukrainian bills. Being rude is the fast track to falling out of favor with foriegn taxpayers.
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I wish we would just go ahead and give ATACMs. It would certainly speed things up.
I think that once the F16 training is completed, it will really change the face of the battle field. I assume we are giving them jdams so they will be capable of striking hundreds of miles into occupied territory.
Aren’t there only a handful of Uke pilots that knew english well enough to do the training? I’m all for sending Ukraine whatever they ask for, but I doubt F-16s will turn the tide
The F-16 will be able to sniff out AA and other ground targets from far away. It will also allow Nato to gift more advanced missiles like JDAM. https://youtu.be/8G7fr3MonQY
So 10 years?
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Breaching those lines was never going to be quick, but once breached the line will move quicker.
The line doesn’t need to move quicker, and Ukraine moving slowly and shoring up every meter they take is going to work out better long term. They aren’t on a march to invade their lost territory, they are on a march to the Azov sea to cut Russia’s only remaining land access to Crimea.
They are building a wall of men and weapons and once that reaches Azov they only have to defend it - and Ukraine are very good at defence.
Then the only way Russia has to get anything to Crimea is the Kerch bridge which is almost inevitably going to be destroyed.
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Not the correct response to say to those who hold the purse strings to your war chest. Especially one particular country whose political tide can turn and drown you.
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What a coincidence, “shut up” is what I tell people who can’t stop talking about Ukraine and Russia.
Why?
