When Alabama’s Supreme Court defined frozen embryos as children, the shock and confusion was immediate. Major hospitals pulled fertility services and would-be parents scrambled for clarity on what would happen next.
The debate over reproductive rights in America has long been driven, in part, by opposition to abortion from Christian groups - but this ruling has divided that movement and ignited debate about the role of theology in US lawmaking.
Oppressive theist group argues amongst itself about wha their imaginary friend in the sky wants.
They don’t care what it wants. They care how they can frame what they want to seem like what it wants. What they want is pretty clearly spelled out here: more babies.
As horrendous as this ruling is, I’m also pissed at the pro-forced birthers that are upset by this ruling. It’s so intellectually dishonest to object to this ruling when it uses the same justifications they use to oppose abortion.
These people pick issues to be passionate on but never actually put in the effort to research. And not just whether their position makes any sense, but what the downstream effects of the position would mean.
The politicians who write these anti-abortion laws are even more lazy. This is literally their job and they should have seen this coming. They could have put in exceptions for IVF from the get-go but they didn’t, because they are more interested in winning points than writing effective legislation.
They could have put in exceptions for IVF from the get-go but they didn’t, because they are more interested in winning points than writing effective legislation.
You can’t square that circle. If you codify your religious myth that “life begins at conception” into law in order to ban abortions, then you also have to outlaw IVF by the very nature of the procedure.
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Unfortunately any theology shouldn’t impact lawmaking.
That statement is rather ambiguous as it could be read to mean it’s unfortunate that theology can’t impact lawmaking, or that it’s unfortunate that theology is impacting lawmaking. Theology shouldn’t impact lawmaking and the fact that it is is the problem. Republicans have been steadily chipping away at separation of church and state for decades now and we’re seeing the impact.
Any hint that a lawmaker is letting religious beliefs dictate their legislation should be an automatic disqualification from office. Politicians shouldn’t even be allowed to mention their religion while campaigning. Instead it’s becoming de rigueur for politicians to affirm their faith on a regular basis, and we regularly have politicians citing religious beliefs in debates about legislation.
The only part of your comment that I disagree with is “unfortunately”.
Fair, my comment was related to the post stating what role theology should play in legislation.
Who could’ve foreseen that restricting reproductive rights could go both ways?
I honestly didn’t. Assuming devout being synonymous with maga, this headline caught me off guard.
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If you’re “Christian” the odds are great that you do not believe and are in fact against the teachings of Jesus Christ.
Book of Revelations
The one book in the new testament credited as written by John after Jesus’ death in order to bring old testament style apocalyptic messaging, and happens to not include any teachings by Jesus?
Dude retconned Jesus to increase the “likes” and “subscribes”.
Hey I didn’t tell them to put it in their book.
But yes that one. The one where Jesus is a murderer torturing genocidal rapist. It is as equally part of the bible as say the Gospel of John maybe even more so because we have higher confidence that we have mostly what was originally in it vs the Gospels.
Also I disagree a bit, a fair amount of revelations lines up with the Markan Jesus. Granted that author took it a lot further but it isn’t coming from nowhere.
Yesterday’s Last Week Tonight showed Tommy Tubervile making that realization in real time. It was pretty incredible.
Would that be the same guy who had trouble grasping the concept of “you don’t actually need to swear on a bible” live on air?
Possibly. He’s extremely stupid.
Same guy who wore kevlar to the Jan 6th events? Or am I confusing him with fellow dumbass Mo Brooks?
What they could go after next:
- Same sex marriage
- Gay sex
- Porn
- Contraception
- Vasectomy
- Divorce
- Interracial marriage
Interracial marriage is safe unless Thomas’ wedding goes on the rocks.
"I think the biggest concerns are that people elsewhere forget about us and they think, ‘Oh they’re just the conservative state, and they’re all country bumpkins. Don’t worry it will never happen here.’
“And the next thing you know, it is happening in other states that are ultra-conservative.”
As a progressive in Texas…fuckin YEAH. Some of us are trying to bring reality back and it’s really annoying to get lumped in with the crazies.
I’m a progressive in Arkansas. I understand that 2/3 of our state vote for terrible people who only want to hurt others. That’s a huge portion. But 1/3 of us are still clinging to sanity.
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Gotta Love an argument about what god would want while people suffer.
Feel sorry for those caught up in this and I hope some have a light bulb moment.
Leopard’s are feasting on faces rn.
Spread and populate the universe, sky daddy said. This goes against that
It will balance itself out with all the unwanted babies once contraceptives and abortion are banned, and rape is decriminalized.
