And you all told me the blue maga border bill that Republicans rejected was 4d chess.

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    Why though? It’s been proven and shown with many many video recordings that the so-called “border crisis” is completely made up. Yes, there are a lot of people at the border seeking asylum, but it’s not a horde of people a la World War Z forming a human tidal wave crashing over the Rio Grande.

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      The GOP has cried wolf so loudly and for so long that now no one believes them.

      The US-Mexico border is 1,951 miles long. You can’t capture the issue with a video or photograph.

      And no, it is not made up. See for yourself. Border encounters spiked hard, but dropped just as hard for January. No idea what’s going on there.

      In any case, look at the yearly numbers for a better picture. For 2024 we’ll easily top 1-million extra migrants over 2021’s numbers. Yeah, we got a problem.

      How are we to employ and house 3+ million souls? And that’s just for 2024. This will require a new major city worth of infrastructure, every year. Don’t we bitch about rent pricing around here? Hold onto your butts.

      And go tell Denver it’s all made up. Dare ya.

      https://www.denverpost.com/2024/02/21/denver-budget-cuts-migrant-crisis-recreation-center-hours/

      https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/02/21/overwhelmed-by-new-arrivals-denver-residents-organize-to-welcome-migrant-populations-decently_6546726_4.html

      https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/12/us/denver-colorado-migrants.html

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        Since many migrants often work construction etc. Perhaps they could be employed to build it. Just a rational stab in the dark here.

        And yes we bitch about rent etc. The key thing to understand, is that rent doesn’t really have a reason to cost as much as it does. The actual cost of upkeep etc for the buildings and property etc is a fraction of the rent. We’ve as a society demonized public housing, and largely refused to let any new be built. Or take care of the few that have properly. Because “reasons”.

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        I’ve always been staunchly against illegal immigration for that reason.We’re already in a cost of living crisis. The country is full. I wish the Democrats would realize that by continuing to allow illegal immigration, it lowers the cost of labor, and in turn and crushes the working class’ collective bargaining power. I’m not gonna go vote for an insurrectionist traitor that will cut Bezos’ tax bill to fix it though, but straight up, idk why people even want to come here anymore. 20 years ago, I get it, but now everything is expensive and you’re not going to make it Washing dishes and picking fruit.

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          The country is far from full. We have cities in a few states that dwarf the population of entire other states.

          The cost of living crisis is manufactured. And we as a society could choose to end it tomorrow.

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            Agreed, but adding to demand without relieving supply does us no favors. If we banned Air BNB and corporate landlords of single family homes, this problem would be gone tomorrow, but that’s not going to happen.

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              We could even leave those things untouched. And simply build desirable, affordable public housing like Austria. In areas where it’s feasible have Finland style district heating.

              That would cause the collapse of said corporate land barons and ridiculous Air BNB BS. We won’t do it however. Because there’s no short term profits in it for said land barons. And it would reduce how much they’re able to overcharge impacting their profits long and short term.

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              a vacancy tax would fix seattle overnight, I stayed at a hotel there recently and most the nearby buildings were over 50% just empty rooms. Theres no reason to justify these kinds of rents except price fixing.

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                100%. A friend of mine lives in a “luxury apartment” and at night, most of the lights are off, I never see other people in the hallway, and I can almost guarantee it is 30-50 % occupied. They don’t care though, they would rather have it be 30% occupied at the higher price than 100% occupied at what the true market rate is.

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                I mean, it’s definitely still relevant. If everyone just said fuck it n moved into Hooverviles tomorrow, cost of housing would go down with no one to occupy/ pay for the housing. They are restricting supply. The only way to combat it beyond asking for legislators to actually do their fucking job is to decrease demand.

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                  They’re restricting supply by buying up empty housing and hoarding it (and manipulating zoning laws and buying off city councils and getting the “right” ordinances passed etc). There isn’t actually a shortage of housing, just a shortage of “available” housing. You can’t fix that by shutting down the border. They’ll just hoard even more to compensate.

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      It’s a power move. He closes it. The GOP cries because money. Their base’s heads explode.

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          I don’t know why you think that would matter to Biden. He already kept in place Trump era policies on Asylum seeking outside official entry points and even wants people to stay in the country they seek to escape until they have our permission to start their journey.

          Looking back at it I think his stance on immigration was our warning that he was going to be the farthest right democratic president yet.

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      Hey traffic will be awesome! Don’t know what we’re going to do with all the trucks that stop though.

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    Biden’s team somehow thinks that enacting republican policies are going to win him more democrat voters?

    Either that or Biden has been a republican this whole time and is enacting policy he openly supports.

    Leaning towards the second option, but man. Biden is going to lose the fuck out of this election.

    I don’t think there’s much he could do at this point to win my vote. He’s already doubled down on every issue I care about.

    And I’m definitely not alone. Fuck neoliberals.

    And fyi. I don’t fucking care if the other guy is worse. Please stop saying that shit over and over again.

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      Biden thinks you will vote for him no matter what, and so is going to focus on winning over so-called “moderate Republicans”

      Watch him get even worse as the election gets closer.

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        Actually, Im fairly certain it’s the other way around. The neoliberals have been making these same arguments for over 40 years. “Vote for this guy because the other guy is worse”.

        You are the one who keeps doing the exact same thing expecting different results.

        I know that probably hurts your feelings. But your feelings are also valid.

        Biden is going to lose this election so hard it isn’t even funny.

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    It’s just a virtue signal that Dems appropriated from Repubs as the Overton Window has shifted to the right. In actually neither of them will do anything to affect real change because too many companies make a shitload of money exploiting the fuck out of immigrants. Then these assholes get to scapegoat these same immigrants as some kind of root cause for how the middle class is doing worse getting fucked over while Wall Street keeps breaking records. If the minimum wage had kept up with inflation, it would be over $20.

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    I’ve keep being put into a position where I have to further my consideration in voting for Biden.

    He’s the strongest the Democrats can muster, we can’t have any one else (but please don’t criticize him, he’s incredibly weak, a strong breeze will knock him over). Hes the best option we’ve got to stop a Palestinian genocice (oh except earlier today he vetoed a vote via the UN that could have stopped the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people). But we have to vote Biden because Trump would probably be worse (even though, you know, Biden is the one right now supporting the genocide. not hypothetical).

    If you think this delusional policy is defensible, right here right now, you are part of the problem.

    NO right wing voter is going to support Biden. PERIOD. NONE. You will ONLY get votes for Biden stepping to the left. Literally every Democratic victory in 60 fucking years have happened that way. But yeah, keep pursuing these genocidal right of Rumsfield positions, Democrats. I"m sure you’ll find that center once you have cripwalked past Cheny’s undead beating heart of evil.

    THe entire last decade of political progress made by progressives has been lost because of this idiot.

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      You lefties make me want to vote for trump. I’ve been a Democrat my entire life but I hate being associated with you idiots. Biden is a strong president and has done far more good than any president in the past 50 years but you’re too far up hasan pikers ass to see it.

      If I see one more “lefty” talking shit about Biden, I’m voting for trump and getting the other fence centers to do so. And I hope he leaves NATO and abandons Palestine to be left a crater so you idiots can finally have a reason to cry (wouldn’t matter since you’re always crying).