Hi Guys. Currently, my Raspberry Pi 4 is only running Home Assistant OS, which works quite well. In the last few weeks, I have grown more and more interested in paperless ngx and Nextcloud. Do you think my pi would be able to handle home automation and some light document management simultaneously? If so, should I install a fresh version of Raspbian or let HA-OS handle the Docker containers?

Thanks for your answers, and have a wonderful day :)

  • TCB13@lemmy.worldEnglish
    61·
    2 years ago

    Nextcloud will be slow. To be realistic is it always slow in all hardware.

    • Molecular0079@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      2 years ago

      It will be slow on the Pi, but it’s pretty darned fast on my new DIY NAS with a Ryzen 5600x so it does scale with better hardware.

        • Molecular0079@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          2 years ago

          Eh, every page has a bunch of Javascript errors and logs. That’s normal. So far it hasn’t impacted my usage at all and I’ve got 450GB gigabytes stored in a Nextcloud instance that’s lasted 4-years and migrated between 3 separate machines.

          • TCB13@lemmy.worldEnglish
            22·
            2 years ago

            That’s normal

            Ahaha. The current state of software development and what people accept as normal is just mind-boggling. And no, it’s not “normal” nor “ok”, it slows down things and the UI sometimes crashes with more data.

            • Molecular0079@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              2 years ago

              I take it you’ve never seen the amount of crap that gets put into journalctl then. I’ve never encountered a Nextcloud crash with the amount of data I have. It could have been a deployment issue on your end. My docker containers have been running fine.

              • TCB13@lemmy.worldEnglish
                1·
                2 years ago

                I tired bare metal and docker, it’s shit and I’m not the only one complaining so I’ll assume you’ve been lucky so far. Either way you can’t deny that the UI is a piece of crap and my “personal favorite” is the webmail UI that can’t even WYSIWYG properly.

                • Molecular0079@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  1·
                  2 years ago

                  It’s been 4 years, that’s one hell of a lucky streak. Eh, the UI is fine, way better than syncthing’s anyways and its client has working partial sync. I get that you have hate for Nextcloud, but personally I am not about the mess of disparate tools in your post just to get something equivalent to Nextcloud tbh. To each their own.

  • rambos@lemm.eeEnglish
    1·
    2 years ago

    Ive been running HA (in docker container) and NextCloud on rpi4 4gb and it was working fine, but after server upgrade (diy pc) nextcloud became much more snappy (wasnt my reason to upgrade). Not sure about paperless, but I had many more lightweight services along with HA and NC. Im also not heavy HA or NC user, just my 0.02

      • rambos@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        2 years ago

        I would, but you have to decide on your own. I dont know can you afford HA downtime, how much experience you have and how much time you want to burn. I found docker frustrating to learn but super rewarding. Keep in mind Im still new.

        Its best to backup and/or get spare SD card to learn how to setup everything. Be prepared for begginer mistakes, but once you get familiar a bit it will be much easier.

        If you can manage docker containers in HAOS just try it. I have 0 experience with HAOS so cant help much, but I saw Portainer is available as HA addon. You should be able to manage all docker containers with simple Portainer GUI.

        I had dietpi or raspbian OS with docker, docker-compose and Portainer installed. Then I started many containers (including HA) using Portainer. If you go this path you will lose HA addons. I believe most addons can be replaced with docker containers from hub.docker.com, but Im not sure about that. Ive just seen some HAOS vs Docker posts

        Gl