• lemmytellyousomething@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    10 months ago

    Israel cannot let Palestinians live as human beings because they out-number the Israelis.

    Is this even true? As far as I know, there are more people in Israel than people in Westbank + Gaza combined.

    Giving then rights would give the Palestinians a majority in voting etc.

    There are some common solution suggestions (2-state-solution or even 3-state-solution) which don’t require giving Palestinians rights in Israel, but rather rights in their own state(s).

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      10 months ago

      So many Palestinians live outside of Palestine. Imagine if their homes haven’t been bulldozed over the last few decades or settlements haven’t been built around the last few “Palestinian towns.” They would have been able to flourish instead of this mess where they get to watch invaders destroy old villages.

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            10 months ago

            I asked whether you have also counted Israelis outside of Israel in your equation…

            And I asked whether you have a source that shows how many Palestinians live outside of the Palestine area… Would be interesting to know how many…

            I’m not sure, why this deserves downvotes, but alright… I might have triggered some people with my general opinion…

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              10 months ago

              Someone who wants to enter a debate about the semantics of camps and genocide should easily be able to find this info. How about a question for you? How many Palestinians exist in the whole world and how many have even bothered attacking a single Israeli despite decades of persecution; which may be unprecedented. Even Hitler’s hate did not last this long.

              There are 2 million Palestinians that Israel is trying to push outside of Palestine or outright MURDER. If those monsters get there way, most Palestinians will now live outside Palestine. But people are over here questioning if Israel hasn’t been trying to get rid of Palestinian culture or traditions; like they do not have a giant death toll on their hands over THREE decades of time. Completely ignoring the fact that more and more houses in the West Bank are being stolen and given to foreigners simply because those foreigners are Jewish.

              I asked whether you have also counted Israelis outside of Israel in your equation…

              Why even ask this? Do you consider Palestinians and Israelis the same? Before Israel, 5% of the Palestinian population were Jewish [and most of those Jews were Russian immigrants, not “Sons of the land”]. Did some of these people move out or something? Seriously, what is the relevance here?

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                10 months ago

                How many Palestinians exist in the whole world and how many have even bothered attacking a single Israeli despite decades of persecution

                How is this relevant in this context?

                I have just asked whether you have a source for your theory and explained why the holocaust comparison is bullshit. That’s it.

                Why even ask this?

                Scroll up. Because of “Israel cannot let Palestinians live as human beings because they out-number the Israelis.”

                Can’t we have a normal conversation here without all this hate

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                  10 months ago

                  Israel cannot let Palestinians live as human beings because they out-number the Israelis

                  How is this not hateful?

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                    10 months ago

                    Israel cannot let Palestinians live as human beings because they out-number the Israelis

                    I think, that the argument “because they out-number the Israelis” is bad / not even true. That’s just someone’s assumption that some people in power in Israel think like that…