As the title say’s, my Windows 10 install broke, but I’m still unsure whether or not to reinstall Windows 10 or install Linux.
Context:
A few months back, Windows 10 updates started to fail on my desktop. I had considered just reinstalling the OS but as my machine was working just fine I simply tolerated it.
Today, when my machine auto-updated it broke something. At first I thought the update worked. But soon I realized that the taskbar was acting odd. All the shortcuts I had placed on my taskbar were working as usual, but when I right clicked them nothing would happen. I clicked on the start menu and the search bar but nothing happened. Most of the widgets on the right side of the taskbar weren’t working such as Volume, Wi-Fi, Date & Time, and Notifications. I assumed it was just the taskbar that was broken but when I tried to use the windows key to open the settings menu, it didn’t work either, nor did it’s keyboard shortcut.
It seems the update had broken some apps that, though didn’t prevent Windows from starting, made navigating it a lot more difficult.
I’ve used Linux before. I had a Linux Mint, and EndeavourOS virtual machine installed on my computer. More recently, I installed EndeavourOS on an old laptop I had lying around, and have been using it daily for about a month now. Although I’ve had my difficulties, I’ve been loving my experience.
Though I’m still a Linux newbie I’ve been meaning to give Linux a real shot on my desktop for a couple weeks now, but as my machine was working just fine I didn’t really feel any necessity to make the switch.
But with my Windows install breaking, I feel like its time to give Linux a real shot.
My Questions:
I want to install Fedora on my desktop but I still have a few questions pertaining to Linux and my desktop specs.
I’m running a GTX 1660. I’ve heard a lot of bad things about running Linux with an NVIDIA GPU so I’d like a few things clarified.
- How would I install NVIDIA drivers?
- Does Wayland work with NVIDIA?
- A lot of distros are moving to Wayland. How would I ensure I stay on an Xorg session?
- I enjoy modding Bethesda games. Does Mod Organizer work fully on Linux?
- I’ve had difficulties running my steam games through proton on my laptop. Does proton work with Fedora?
- With said difficulties with proton, would installing Steam as a flatpak work or will it cause issues?
- Can you really not play any games with anti-cheat?
If you believe Fedora wouldn’t be the best distro for me I’m welcome to hear any suggestions, though I’m not enthusiastic about running anything Debian based nor installing vanilla Arch.
I’m sorry if I’m coming off as lazy for not doing my research. I’ve tried to research many of these questions before but found no concrete answers.
To all those who took the time to respond to my post.
Thank You!
Edit: I’ve made a new post
How do I install Nvidia drivers
On fedora it’s simple, you enable 3rd party repositories during install and then you install it from the software center.
Does Wayland work with Nvidia
Your experience will vary, it works fine for some and not so fine for others afaik.
Most distros are moving to Wayland, how do I ensure an Xorg session.
Distros that are moving to Wayland still provide an Xorg session and probably will do so for the foreseeable future.
Will proton work on fedora.
Yes. Proton is distro independent, it’s a tool, provided by steam and it doesn’t really care what distro you are running. Remember to enable steamplay for all games from the steam settings before you do anything else.
Will installing steam as a flatpaks work?
Yes. I’ve heard that some people have had issues with the steam flatpak, but I personally haven’t, it should work fine.
Can you not play anticheat games.
Entirely depends on the game you wanna play. Some anticheat games work, others don’t. Check the game you wanna play on protondb to see if it works. That being said, afaik anticheat support outside steam is basically a non existent, so if you like playing valorant (you poor, poor soul) or Fortnite for example, you’re kinda out of luck, unless you wanna dual boot.
Note: Try the distro before installing, live ISOs exist for a reason.
Note 2: Take a look at ventoy
MO2 does work on Linux, I’ve played modded Skyrim extensively on my Steam Deck. Works like a charm! https://github.com/rockerbacon/modorganizer2-linux-installer
Thank you. I read a while ago that MO2 didn’t work on Linux, which is why I asked here.
Again thank you.
First of all Fedora is a great distro and I do suggest it if you like it, otherwise I suggest Nobara(fedora based) or Pop_OS(ubuntu LTS based) as they both have iso’s that come with nvidia drivers pre installed. Nobara has steam pre installed too.
(quick note about Nobara: beside pretty much being Fedora customized(and optimized) for gaming and made more user friendly it is maintained by only one devoloper. This person is the creator of the popular proton version ProtonGE and a Red Hat employee, “Glorious Eggroll” and it is still FOSS so trust shouldn’t be an issue BUT due to the small number of maintainers it is more likely to break and should be considered somewhat experimental, despite this it is my daily driver and fave distro)
I use wayland just fine with an rtx 3060 but it js unstable for many othera and you can choose witch session you wanna boot into (x11 or wayland) on the login screen so that shouldn’t be problem to find which works the best for you
I Mod FNV and FO4 using MO2 on linux it works fine but the initial set up was a little painfull.
Steam should work fine both as native package and Flatpak. and proton works with any distro
Many games with anticheat work with linux and many don’t you can check your games on areweanticheatyet.com
Go for it. Switching to Linux has never been easier than it is today. I still keep a Windows virtual machine for when I need to use specific Windows applications, but aside from that I have been running Linux on my work and gaming machines for two years now with zero issues.
I’m surprised to hear you had problems with Proton - in my experience it has been seamless, although there are still some titles that don’t work so well with it. I don’t play any games that require anti-cheat, though, so there is that.
It’s never easy to say which distro is best, because every user and every machine is different. I personally recommend Nobara instead of Fedora, as a lot of the post-install tweaking is already done for you and it should even install the latest Nvidia drivers for you as well.
Just to clarify on the proton thing, its an issue I faced on my old 80TJ Lenovo ideapad. I assume it’s a hardware issue as Vulkan doesn’t seem to work, and it has 4 gigs of ram. There’s also the fact its over 9 years old.
I’m not really searching for a solution to my laptops problems, but thanks for the insight.
If you don’t mind me asking what difficulties would I face switching desktop environments/ window managers as I’d like to experiment a bit(on my desktop).
Ah, ok.
As far as DE-hopping, it does come with some problems. At the very least, you will have a ton of different apps installed, as each DE will want its own file manager, terminal, etc. At worst, you will get conflicts and it can end up a right mess.
I would personally keep a separate virtual machine or Ventoy USB separate from your main machine, as it will give you the freedom to mess around with different desktops to your heart’s content. If that isn’t an option for whatever reason, then at the very least make sure you create a separate user account for each separate WM/DE you install so that shit doesn’t break.
Disclaimer: I don’t use Fedora, but have friends who do. So I tried to include sources, below. 😅
How would I install NVIDIA drivers?
https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/NVIDIA
_Does Wayland work with NVIDIA?*
(I don’t know)
A lot of distros are moving to Wayland. How would I ensure I stay on an Xorg session?
GNOME now defaults to Wayland. Instructions to use xOrg instead: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/configuring-xorg-as-default-gnome-session/
I expect other desktop environments will similarly have mechanisms switch, at least during a transition period.
I enjoy modding Bethesda games. Does Mod Organizer work fully on Linux?
Your mileage may vary, but it looks likely: https://github.com/rockerbacon/modorganizer2-linux-installer
I’ve had difficulties running my steam games through proton on my laptop. Does proton work with Fedora?
I suspect it will. Steam has been pouring money into making it’s catalog Linux ready, https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/gaming/proton/
With said difficulties with proton, would installing Steam as a flatpak work or will it cause issues?
In principle it ought to, but there appears to be an issue with it currently. https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/gaming/proton/
Can you really not play any games with anti-cheat?
Anti cheat software generally works by looking for irregularities that detect if there’s any program besides Windows that’s intercepting system calls. It is unfortunately by exactly this mechanism that allows Proton to work (as Windows isn’t present).
This is extremely helpful. Thank you for the links!
I’m sorry, I don’t have time to address your questions individually but you should check out Nobara Linux, it is Fedora modded heavily for gamers and they have a version with Nvidia drivers pre installed. It works near perfectly out of the box, I haven’t tried mod organizers but Lutris works great for any game that doesn’t run thru Steam Proton.
Mod organizer has a linux install script on github that I’ve used without issues before. I play skyrim on Ubuntu 23.10 with well over 100 mods and it’s been largely just the same as on windows.
Fedora is a great foundation for stability and up to date software. I personally use Ultramarine Linux; it’s a general purpose distro based on Fedora, but with more desktop environments, more available packages, more media codecs (plain fedora leaves out a bunch of codecs that you need to play audio or video files), and some more sane defaults. Even with all that, it isn’t noticeably more bloated than Fedora; it just gives you more options and makes it so that you don’t have to follow a “Things You MUST Do After I stalling Fedora” article.
Wayland works with Nvidia in my experience, and Wayland is remarkably stable and xorg-compatible. Folks will argue about that, but it’s been great for the few years I’ve used it on my laptop and desktop. I know at least Ultramarine installs both, and you can switch between them on the login screen, so give it a shot.
If your games don’t work, it’s quite normal to dual boot windows just for gaming.
Also, you might consider making your home folder a separate partition. That means you can reinstall and switch distros while leaving your documents and media and such in place. That said, partitioning manually is hard to get the hang of; let me know if you want some help on that front.
I highly recommend, as a beginner and a windows user, using fedora kinoite
It’s immutable, which means you can’t break the system unless you try very hard, and even then, it’ll give you a list of previous setups to boot from, and updates can’t break it.
It also keeps the system separate from your apps by using flatpak, the intricacies aren’t really important as a beginner but basically this means you’ll have an absolutely stable rock solid system that you never have to do weird maintenance for
I would highly recommend trying it out, and i’m absolutely willing to help with any issues you run into, feel free to message me on matrix @communist:mozilla.org or here.
as for your questions:
- How would I install NVIDIA drivers? https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-kinoite/troubleshooting/
^ guide is here, a few terminal commands, then you’re done
- Does Wayland work with NVIDIA?
https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Wayland/Nvidia ^Yes, here’s the known issues page for kde
- A lot of distros are moving to Wayland. How would I ensure I stay on an Xorg session?
You choose X11 or wayland on the login screen.
- I enjoy modding Bethesda games. Does Mod Organizer work fully on Linux?
https://github.com/Nexus-Mods/NexusMods.App
^this is actually the successor, and it works natively on linux.
I used to use mod organizer and it also works although is a bit more annoying to setup.
- I’ve had difficulties running my steam games through proton on my laptop. Does promton work with Fedora?
Yes, but I recommend installing proton ge through flatpak and setting it as the default with this command:
flatpak install com.valvesoftware.Steam.CompatibilityTool.Proton-GE
Then go to steams settings > compatibility > enable steam play for all other titles, and run other titles with proton-ge
- With said difficulties with proton, would installing Steam as a flatpak work or will it cause issues?
That’s the only way to do it on kinoite, and will not cause issues.
- Can you really not play any games with anti-cheat?
Right now as far as i’m aware only easy-anticheat works. With others you’re SOL.
edit: use this apparently https://areweanticheatyet.com/
try it, you can always install windows again
I would suggest, whatever you try, that you make sure to write down your windows key and then deauthorize your PC. That way, if it doesn’t work out and you want/need to go back, you can reinstall windows and not deal with the unlicensed copy BS.
Just because I haven’t seen anyone mention it, the distro that finally allowed me to make the switch was Zorin. It is extremely noob friendly for people coming from windows and the first time (for me) I had a linux that “just worked”.
you should try out live usbs and see how it goes