Coming around? When was he on the wrong side of this issue?
His October 10 statement includes:
Right now, the international community must focus on reducing humanitarian suffering and protecting innocent people on both sides of this conflict. The targeting of civilians is a war crime, no matter who does it. Israel’s blanket denial of food, water, and other necessities to Gaza is a serious violation of international law and will do nothing but harm innocent civilians. The United States has rightly offered solidarity and support to Israel in responding to Hamas’ attack. But we must also insist on restraint from Israeli forces attacking Gaza and work to secure UN humanitarian access. Let us not forget that half of the two million people in Gaza are children. Children and innocent people do not deserve to be punished for the acts of Hamas.
October 10. 3 days after the initial attack.
Back in January he tried conditioning aid to Israel and requiring the state department to issue human rights report on their conducts.
The Palestinian conflict did not start on Oct 7th it’s been happening for decades now. Specifically my gripes are with “The United States has rightly offered solidarity and support to Israel in responding to Hamas’ attack. But we must also insist on restraint from Israeli forces attacking Gaza and work to secure UN humanitarian access.” I do not agree that any support should have been given period, Israel has been a genocidal Zionist entity for a long time now and Sanders is well aware of this I’m certain. I’m also frustrated by his request for restraint as if anything other than the dismantling of the Israeli state could possibly suffice.
He is also a proponent of the two state solution which is inherently sympathetic to the settler colonial state.
I’m glad he is wants the genocide to stop but conditional fucking Israeli aid is not the way to do that. They should not be aided. Was it wise to aid apartheid South africa through continued trade relations? Was it right to vilify Mandela as a terrorist? Of course not, we can look back on these actions and see how wrong they were because we know what came to be. So why are we doing it again?
Yes obviously apartheid South Africa and the current palestinian genocide are not a flawless comparison but they are similar enough.
Essentially my point is that he has been much too sympathetic towards Israel for a while. Sure he’s probably one of the most radical politicians we have on this issue but I find that to be incredibly disheartening.
The problem with Israel is that there is no legal way to remove them from the area. There is no ethical way to condone their treatment of Palestinians either, and the US needs to remain on good terms with Israel to keep the American hegemony strong. Sanders cannot change these things. The only hope for any shred of peace in the Holy Land is to revert back to some semblance of a two-state solution similar to the original 1948 map. England and the UN royally fucked the Palestinians in the 40s and now the chickens have finally, in 2024, come home to roost.
Sanders cannot change the value Israel has to the US but at the very least he could advocate for a ceasefire which he doesn’t think is possible with a “terrorist organization that is dedicated to perpetual war” [source]
If I rolled my eyes any harder they’d rotate completely
The settlers never should have been there in the first place. It isn’t their land and never was. They arrived touting violence and have not ceased. A two state solution validates their self professed “right to the land” and allows for eventual further expansion of the settler colonial state some time in the future should we not keep constant surveillance and management on the proposed Israeli state.
In addition, a single state solution does not necessarily require the forceful expulsion of every settler. It is not inherently violent or oppressive either. In apartheid South Africa many settlers left of their own volition once their privileged status had dissolved.
Glad he’s coming around
Coming around? When was he on the wrong side of this issue?
His October 10 statement includes:
October 10. 3 days after the initial attack.
Back in January he tried conditioning aid to Israel and requiring the state department to issue human rights report on their conducts.
He never was. But he didn’t say the exact thing that people wanted him to, which is a mortal sin
The Palestinian conflict did not start on Oct 7th it’s been happening for decades now. Specifically my gripes are with “The United States has rightly offered solidarity and support to Israel in responding to Hamas’ attack. But we must also insist on restraint from Israeli forces attacking Gaza and work to secure UN humanitarian access.” I do not agree that any support should have been given period, Israel has been a genocidal Zionist entity for a long time now and Sanders is well aware of this I’m certain. I’m also frustrated by his request for restraint as if anything other than the dismantling of the Israeli state could possibly suffice.
He is also a proponent of the two state solution which is inherently sympathetic to the settler colonial state.
I’m glad he is wants the genocide to stop but conditional fucking Israeli aid is not the way to do that. They should not be aided. Was it wise to aid apartheid South africa through continued trade relations? Was it right to vilify Mandela as a terrorist? Of course not, we can look back on these actions and see how wrong they were because we know what came to be. So why are we doing it again?
Yes obviously apartheid South Africa and the current palestinian genocide are not a flawless comparison but they are similar enough.
Essentially my point is that he has been much too sympathetic towards Israel for a while. Sure he’s probably one of the most radical politicians we have on this issue but I find that to be incredibly disheartening.
The problem with Israel is that there is no legal way to remove them from the area. There is no ethical way to condone their treatment of Palestinians either, and the US needs to remain on good terms with Israel to keep the American hegemony strong. Sanders cannot change these things. The only hope for any shred of peace in the Holy Land is to revert back to some semblance of a two-state solution similar to the original 1948 map. England and the UN royally fucked the Palestinians in the 40s and now the chickens have finally, in 2024, come home to roost.
Sanders cannot change the value Israel has to the US but at the very least he could advocate for a ceasefire which he doesn’t think is possible with a “terrorist organization that is dedicated to perpetual war” [source]
If I rolled my eyes any harder they’d rotate completely
Why is the two-state solution inherently sympathetic to the settler colonial state ?
The settlers never should have been there in the first place. It isn’t their land and never was. They arrived touting violence and have not ceased. A two state solution validates their self professed “right to the land” and allows for eventual further expansion of the settler colonial state some time in the future should we not keep constant surveillance and management on the proposed Israeli state.
In addition, a single state solution does not necessarily require the forceful expulsion of every settler. It is not inherently violent or oppressive either. In apartheid South Africa many settlers left of their own volition once their privileged status had dissolved.